He is a bugger for the arm clamp! Everyone in the ground can see it barring the refs! No point trying to take his head off he either makes you look silly by evading the shot or by getting up from it and not shirking a thing. Tough as well as good the complete player. Only player we had who could tackle him yesterday was murphy who seemed to wrap him up ball n all every time he got near him. 13 more like him and we might have held you to nil nil as to be honest your defense was phenomenal and we never really looked like scoring

I'll say what I always say about Sam and thats that he takes far far more then he dishes out and fair play to the lad for keeping as cool as he does at times. We see him being targetted week in week out and he gets little to no protection from the referees so if he loses his rag now and again or tries to con the odd penalty back for the ones he should be getting when teams take his head off then so be it.

The first time we touched the ball at HKR last week made me chuckle. It was a long punt down field and Sam took the ball in and was met by a couple of KR defenders. I think one of them was Ben Galea who decided to scrag him to the floor and throw his forearm into his face and then push his head into the ground and what does the ref do? Sod all as per usual.

They won't be doing that when Hock is back.

I promise you that.

Can't wait

Sam doesn't need a minder and thats whats so great about him and annoys oppositions teams and their fans so much. He'll stick up for himself and people don't like that. They expect him to just take all this stick and give nothing back.

Hock can concentrate on bedding back in for a while before he becomes our enforcer.

Sam gets hit high every week... yet him trying to win a penalty every now and again is like thee worst offence in the sport.

Like someone has said, since Abletts hit - Id rather see Sam annoy players by winning penalties etc after the referee offfering no help or protection then.. and ever since.


It was the Sam show yesterday though.

Spot on.

He laughs off every dig and high shot he gets.But gets his own back in his own way..and i love everytime he does it because you can feel the anger from fans and players.

Man of steel 2011? On yesterdays showing he's definitely got to be a strong contender. And with the amount of stick he takes he'd be a much more worthy winner than some past holders of the trophy. Man of steel should mean exactly what it says on the tin. Tomkins is as tough as tique and would be a worthy winner

Fair play for your honesty.

Currently joint top for Man of Steel with Rangi Chase. 6/1

This may be a scary thing for superleague tbh but i'd say the lad hasn't hit top gear yet. I thought Yesterday was as well as he's played this season but he's got plenty left in the tank.

Roby must be favourite at the moment with Rangi Chase a close 2nd but if anybody can get infront of those 2 it will be Sam.

Two players I'd love to see in a Wigan shirt, unlikely as it is.

Rangi Chase is pure class would be amazing to have him at Wigan.

Neither is ever gonna happen sadly but I'd happily pay 1.5 times my current season ticket price to raise the money for Wigan to do it.

Roby never would but theres no reason why we couldn't sign Chase. Infact he's exactly the type of player I expect to move on to a club like Wigan, Wire, Saints or Leeds given time.

Cas are doing a great job this season but if one of those clubs came calling for Chase and were willing to pay a fee they may be tempted and if not teams will just wait to his deals up(whenever that may be).

I can't see Cas being able to keep him for a great length of time sadly.

I was actually saying to my dad just before the Saints game on Friday that we should be offering big money for Chase. Whether or not its viable I don't know, but I'd like to think that he's the level of player we could be after and could possibly have room for under the cap next year, no idea what his contract status is mind. Although like you say it'd be a shame for Cas, as I think he's integral to their team.

Hopefully Cas will get their new stadium sorted and that should help their cause when it comes to keeping their best players but even then a move to one of the games big 4 or 5 teams may be hard to turn down.

You only need to look at guys like Shenton and Westerman to see how difficult it is for them and going further back to the days when they lost guys like Orr and Godwin. They're a fantastic club and some of the stuff they've played this year has been exceptional but certain things out of their control limit them as a club.

Chase and Sam at 6 and 7.. not bad.

that would be great but has maguire now ruined sam insisting he plays at full back?
will any other coach change things?
thats my worry,
i think hes a much better 6 than full back but i cant see ne one changing him back

I would have thought playing Tomkins at Full Back would be the best thing for you! Some of the returns he did from kicks on Good Friday where quite superb. The lad is devastating when given space to run.

its the best thing ever for the defending teams, they can have 4 men running at him and he has no support, or anyone else to aid his attempts at stepping or dummy passing, etc

There's some tosh written on here about Sam Tomkins. Poor defence, ball greedy, poor kicking game, what a load of rubbish. Just rejoice that he plays for us and try to learn something about rugby league.

This.

It's no coincidence that his best moments have come this year when playing off the cuff. He's too restricted at full back to be part of the 'move' rather than doing what he does best at 6 which is to react to what is in front of him. Kicks over the top, running the opposite way across the field to set up the Charnley try, there's two examples. We are lucky to have him.

I once remember Shaun Edwards returning from a serious knee injury and getting booed at an home game V Hull KR, once again proof that some Wigan fans know ragg all about the game. Reading some of the posts on this tread I see some fans brain cells havent evolved over the 20 odd years or so.
This kid is probably twice as talented as Shaun Edwards and has the same winning mentality, give a lad a break and just sit back, watch, enjoy and think yourself lucky youre in an era in which he will be in his pomp.
Its only when I look back now and remember the likes of Hanley and Gregory do I realise how lucky I was to watch them and the team around them.

Fully agree. Giz did get some $hite under that Pop Stand at times.