One pass in the entire game. Great contribution, that try was only scored due to our awful attempt to tackle Tuson. Hardly game breaking or changing. I refer back to your "Myler is a support player" argument" his 10 try assists in 15 games seem to make that statement look silly.

Tomkins is a great young half back who would improve if he got his temper under control a bit more. Myler is a great young half back who would improve if he allowed his temper to fire him up a bit more.

I wont try and say ive seen enough of Myler this year but from what i have hes not up to the standards of Tomkins or Eastmond. Its all well and good stating stats but whose to say he didnt get the ball from supporting a half break and then gained the assist from drawing the fullback ? Stats are good to a certain extent especially for metres and tackles made but for other things they dont always tell the full story.

As a Warrington supporter I hate Sam - so he must be good

But to say Myler is not upto that standard is ridiculous. Myler has an exceptionally mature approach to the game. He reads the game well, tackles his fair share and with good technique. He does not need to show more 'temper' as his enthusiasm for the game is indicated in his clapping to the crowd as he walks back, his try celebrations and his 80 minutes consistency. He controls his 'temper' because he knows how too. Tomkins I am sure will learn this too eventually - the sooner he does the better for him and his game.
It is very easy to call Myler a 'support player' as he scored/nearly scored so many times on Friday but you are underestimating the control Briers has on the game. It is difficult for a team to have 2 half back chiefs. Myler, for the time being is learning his trade from a master but can turn it up when the space allows. His explosive pace on the line coupled with his ability to understand his players around him make him a very good support player, but he has way more strings to his bow.

are you really saying its ridiculous to say that Myler is not up to the standard of Sam Tomkins or have I misread something? I like Myler, his positional play is fantastic he's a very clever player who can create tries for people as well as score them himself but Sam is totally unique, he wasn't even playing in Super League at the start of last season yet he has very rarely done anything wrong and is our man of the match most games he plays in. He can step off both feet better than anyone I have ever seen and his balance is getting better and better by the week. I take your point that you have Briers at the club doing organising and stuff but Sam doesn't rely on being part of set plays he is a free thinker who regularly creates things and his ability to throw a cut out pass past 3 or 4 players or switch directions quickly with a short inside pass is as good as some of the best halfbacks in the NRL with years of experience behind them and he is one of the best in the business at chasing down players who have made a break and stopping anyone regardless of their size. I don't think for one second it is insulting to Myler to suggest he isn't at this level, he's still one of the best halfbacks this country has produced for years.

As a final point his celebrations in front of the Wigan fans at the HJ would indicate he still has a lot of growing up to do.

Myler, STomkins, Eastmond. I'd have any 3 in my team

Eastmond is a great kicker and brilliant at breaking the line, his strength speed and low centre of gravity make him a handy player

Tomkins (i'll get a canned for this) is actually similar to Briers, a maverick, but his strength compared to Briers is his running and sidestep whereas Briers kicking is exceptional. Like Briers he can be anonymous one game and phenomenal the next

Myler, now i don't profess to know the game real in depth but he is actually more dangerous than any player in the league without the ball and his game is about being practically telepathic, he reads his teamates, he knows when and where to be on the pitch.

Scissors, paper, stone.
For England i'd play all 3 at the same time
Tomkins and Eastmond capable of playing Fullback, eastmond centre too.
Our pack is dominant, i really think England are probably only 2 or 3 three players short of beating the Aussies and lets not forget a decent coach too

I'd play all three for England mate without a shadow of a doubt but you are way off the mark with Sam. He has the odd average game where he'll make a try and score one but the rest of the time he is man of the match or pretty close Briers raises his game against certain teams and gets himself hyped up speaking to the papers and the like but then does nothing in certain games. This can't be said about Sam. When he has played for England he has not been afraid to direct the more experienced players around the pitch this was particularly noticeable in last years match against New Zealand when he'd only had about half a season of first team experience.

I'm pretty sure Sam already has more Test caps than Briers.

I think we'll put this thread to bed till the next time the clubs meet.

Normally i'm happy to just read the debates without contributing but have got rather sick of the cheap nasty jibes aimed at Warrington and our fans on these board by you Wiganers.

What exactly is the problem with us? Are you bitter because we've had the challenge cup on the sideboard and have a great chance to retain it while you lot are getting all giddy because your virtually guaranteed the hubcap? Or is it because we stuffed you infront of your passionless fans just the other week? Possibly your angry at 8 long years without a trophy?

We are the 2nd biggest club in SL (yes your first), a club very much on the up and with the best support in SL so reading this constant Wire-bashing is getting tedious, have a bit of respect for the progress we have made under Tony Smith.

Remember we have a chance of the double,you don't.

The play-offs are just around the corner,be afraid,be VERY afraid.

You're funny. I like you.

I still can't believe all of mankind has not bowed down to the mighty wire!

what a first post that was lol!

oh since when was 7 points stuffed???

Pathetic!

Care to point out these "sick and nasty jibes"?

What next Tony Smith for PM? Be afraid very afraid!.

Theyve won the double already, our lads may aswel go on holiday.

Do you do stand up mate?

Posted this on another thread on this board thought it should be on here also:-

is there somthing in the water in direland that makes them deluded?



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How? Attendences, Ground capacity, history, honours, number of accadamy/born wires spread all over the leagues, or influence.

think St Helens, Leeds and Hull might disput that statement

Some of our fans really don't help themselves.

Funny how many bites he got though

What load of paranoid rubbish. For starters Saints have always been a bigger club than Warrington.

Wire fans are getting to ahead of themselves right now.

The thread that just keeps on giving

less giving and more going required. How/ why is this thread still here?





Yes I know, because people like me contribute to it, but I'm above getting involved in the paranoid, delusional rantings of small time RL fans with chips on shoulders and delusions of grandeur so I'll just keep quiet

True but it shall be back when the sides next meet. Hopefully next season.