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| Quote ="dubairl"still cant see how people are saying we was poor? yeah the game wasn't full of entertainment but defense was solid with a poop ball a heavy ground what do people expect? 100 meter trys? hull actually defended well just couldn't hold the ball'"
It was poor because Wigan won, and their team was not there...Simples..
Hull may have dropped it a lot.. We did not...
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| We handled the dreadful conditions better than they did. Wane got the tactics exactly right, and our players controlled the ball and the game better. A good old-fashioned game of RL.
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"It was poor because Wigan won, and their team was not there...Simples..
Hull may have dropped it a lot.. We did not...'"
I guess you missed JWarriors comment. Ask your carer to read out the whole thread next time.
It was a poor game and would still have been poor if Hull would have managed to win somehow. The best team on the day by a long way won.
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"I guess you missed JWarriors comment. Ask your carer to read out the whole thread next time.
It was a poor game and would still have been poor if Hull would have managed to win somehow. The best team on the day by a long way won.'"
so trolling aside do you think saints would of done any better in them conditions? when sam tomkins and josh charnley look like they are in slow motion you know the grass is heavy.
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| Quote ="Geoff"We handled the dreadful conditions better than they did. Wane got the tactics exactly right, and our players controlled the ball and the game better. A good old-fashioned game of RL.'"
Thats one way to look at it I guess but tbh with all the ball you had you should have put more on the board. Hull tackled well but I dont think Wigan showed a great deal in attack and given you had a full complement of players out there today would be a worry for the playoffs. At the end of the day a wins a win.
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| Quote ="dubairl"so trolling aside do you think saints would of done any better in them conditions? when sam tomkins and josh charnley look like they are in slow motion you know the grass is heavy.'"
I'm not trolling, and Josh Charnley didnt look like he was in slow motion when he ran down Hull's fullback. Do I think Saints would have done better? Who knows , obviously I'd like to think so. The game as a spectacle was pretty poor is the point I and many others including Wiganers are making.
As I mentioned before for Wigan fans a wins a win
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"Thats one way to look at it I guess but tbh with all the ball you had you should have put more on the board. Hull tackled well but I dont think Wigan showed a great deal in attack and given you had a full complement of players out there today would be a worry for the playoffs. At the end of the day a wins a win.'"
I think Hull's defence deserves a lot of credit, much as it did in the semi-final v Wire. It was never going to be a high scoring game in those conditions.
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"I'm not trolling, and Josh Charnley didnt look like he was in slow motion when he ran down Hull's fullback. Do I think Saints would have done better? Who knows , obviously I'd like to think so. The game as a spectacle was pretty poor is the point I and many others including Wiganers are making.
As I mentioned before for Wigan fans a wins a win'"
and he looked like he was really struggling to get to top speed. it was a game where the better kicking game and ball control won, not who could offload and get a quick play of the ball. when was the last time it rained for a challenge cup final? what wigan did to hull today is what we have been doing to you for the past few season over than the odd game.
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| Worst final in living memory. Nothing short of a disgrace to our game unfortunately.
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"It was poor because Wigan won'"
It wasn't poor because Wigan won, I wanted you to win... it was just plain poor, one of the worst finals I've seen.
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| Quote ="Geoff"I think Hull's defence deserves a lot of credit, much as it did in the semi-final v Wire. It was never going to be a high scoring game in those conditions.'"
It's a fair point. I think a Wire v Wigan final would have been a far better game to watch mind you. I'm not going to deny I wanted a Hull win but I would have settled for a good exciting game.
I wonder if anything will be done about these new balls? I've heard plenty complaints from players and coaches
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| Quote ="meast"best of 2 very poor teams today, well deserved though.
congratulations on winning the cup wigan
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well you were so effin poor you wernt effin there congrats to your EFFIN POOR TEAM
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| Quote ="dubairl"and he looked like he was really struggling to get to top speed. it was a game where the better kicking game and ball control won, not who could offload and get a quick play of the ball. when was the last time it rained for a challenge cup final? what wigan did to hull today is what we have been doing to you for the past few season over than the odd game.'"
I've seen plenty games in the rain better than that including a few Grand Finals .... I suspect that the new balls havent helped
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| Love this thread.
Makes the win all the sweeter.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Love this thread.
Makes the win all the sweeter.'"
If you say so.
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| wigan did what they needed to do to get a win and nothing more. its not our fault hull played bad.
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"If you say so.'"
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"
I wonder if anything will be done about these new balls? I've heard plenty complaints from players and coaches'"
Haven't seen the stats, but I'd guess our completion rate was up close to 90%...I don't recall too many unforced errors from us...but lots from Hull. Always going to be that sort of game...we played wet weather rugby; they didn't.
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| Quote ="the grinch"wigan did what they needed to do to get a win and nothing more. its not our fault hull played bad.'"
Very true and you can't blame them for that. Its all about the win, not the performance.
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| Quote ="Geoff"Haven't seen the stats, but I'd guess our completion rate was up close to 90%...I don't recall too many unforced errors from us...but lots from Hull. Always going to be that sort of game...we played wet weather rugby; they didn't.'"
Think the BBC had it something like 74% after about an hour. Congratulations BTW
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| Quote ="Geoff"Haven't seen the stats, but I'd guess our completion rate was up close to 90%...I don't recall too many unforced errors from us...but lots from Hull. Always going to be that sort of game...we played wet weather rugby; they didn't.'"
Well into the 80's I think , Hull at one point were at 50 % .
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| Thank you,made my day,happy for Blake Green as well.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Love this thread.
Makes the win all the sweeter.'"
Funnily enough a certain Stains fan did the same a couple of years ago after the win against Leeds - both really sad and really funny at the same time. Like you say makes this pint taste all the sweeter.
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| Quote ="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"Funnily enough a certain Stains fan did the same a couple of years ago after the win against Leeds - both really sad and really funny at the same time. Like you say makes this pint taste all the sweeter.
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I've been sat on the front row of my double decker coach, up the top, stretching the old legs with a few bottles of Stella chuckling away.
It's truely joyous how eat up 'some' opposition fans get about a Wigan trophy victory.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I've been sat on the front row of my double decker coach, up the top, stretching the old legs with a few bottles of Stella chuckling away.
It's truely joyous how eat up 'some' opposition fans get about a Wigan trophy victory.'"
If your mission is to enhance a negative stereotype here, your doing a fine job!
As for the game, I'm just sorry that having Wigan and Hull CC 1985 being considered a classic that we have now managed to undoubtedly produce the worst final in living memory, not least because it was bloody boring to watch.
I've nothing against Wigan. Deserved the win. I just hope our match next week is far better as a spectacle.
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