MOS. Roby? Chase? What a load of shiite.

MOS is a popularity show and has so little importance in my opinion, I judge a players on how they perform and the silverware they win.

Lost all credability for me when Barrett didnt win it

Sadly, you're right. The Barrett debacle proved that a panel of 'RL experts' can't be trusted. The fact that some clown actually voted for Danny Maguire as MOM at Wembley last year shows the RL press can't be trusted. And last year's Man of Steel showed the players can't be trusted.

There's basically no-one left, so the whole thing is a farce.

I would like to see the coaches have a vote. They watch the games more than anyone.

I think the coaches would be the best judges. They watch the players the most and make plans to stop other teams danger men so will really be focussing on that particular seasons best players. I think the majority are sensible enough to vote fairly on the issue as well.

It could be no worse then the journo's or players voting for it going off past results.

TBH The player's player is the best way to go about it. Just because you don't agree with the result, doesn't mean they can't be 'trusted'.

If a panel of his peers vote Chase MoS, then he is MoS, you can't complain just because you feel Sam was the better player, that's your opinion, in the Player's opinion Chase was better. I have no problem with that.

The argument some people are making though is that some players will have voted for Rangi Chase not because they thought he was better than Sam Tomkins, but because they simply don't like Sam Tomkins & wouldn't want to see him win it.

Spot on. Nobody can actually claim that Chase is a better player than Sam.

You would have thought the whole of Leeds would have boycotted voting for Tomkins and a few other clubs with bitter players would have done the same purely based on jealousy and the fact he's embarrassed many of them on the field. MOS appears to be a personality contest amongst the players who have stood out the most during the season.

Do you have any proof of this? To say they didn't vote for him because they don't like him is a wild accusation to make without any proof.

Who had a bigger impact on Super League 2011, Sam Tomkins or Rangi Chase?

If your answer is Sam Tomkins you must concede the only reason other player's didn't vote for him is because they don't like him.

Do you have any proof (other than the tainted MOS award) that Rangi Chase is even fit to lace Sam's boots when it comes to being SuperLeague's best player?

To say that he won the vote WITHOUT tactical voting for "anyone but that finger-flicking Tomkins", therefore saying that he is, in fact, a better player, is quite simply beyond being "a wild accusation".

Tomkins was better then Chase in 2011

Tomkins is a far better player then Chase overall

Both cold facts IMO yet Sam didn't win the MOS award and why? Pure jealousy as far as I can see and it comes down to a popularity contest amoungst the best 4 or 5 players IMO.

Let the coaches pick it.

I think its far more likely that tomkins and roby split the vote as both had cracking seasons. Honestly the bitterness on this board is unbelievable, you all act like theres a huge conspiracy against wigan by the people that run the game, its ridiculous

For me the best player last year was Roby! He carried Saints to the Grand Final. Rangi Chase missed a simple dg to get Cas to a CCF and went missing after that as Cas finished outside the playoffs . It was a joke how he won it.

Dont know how feasible it is but they should publish who voted for who in my opinion! Therefor you could judge if Tomkins was boycotted by certain teams and who actually voted for Chase!

I think you wildly underestimate the influence of James Graham on that Saints team - the proof of which has been seen in Saints early season form despite Roby being his usual ball hogging / stat filling self until his injury.

The MoS is a joke. Not giving Sam the award last year was a typical example of the small-minded RL community shooting itself in the foot. We have the most naturally gifted player for decades, a young man who we should be promoting as one of the UK's top sports stars. And the muppets vote for Chase instead. You couldn't make it up.

They've missed his motivational impact too - hissy fits they may have been sometimes but at least he cared, which by the looks of things on the Saints board is more than you can say about most of the rest of team. They are badly missing "Jammer" who seems to have had almost a Farrell-esque role in enabling an average side to overachieve.

The people who run the game aren't competent enough to organise a huge conspiracy against Wigan.

TBF, no accusation can be too wild in the world of British RL.

There has to be some explanation as to why the players voted for Chase. The rumour that certain clubs imposed block-votes on their teams to keep Sam away from the trophy, is far more believable to me than the notion that they all know so little about the game as to give it to Chase.

This thread really has tickled me. I remember everyone up in arms when Barrett was robbed with people suggesting that the players should vote for the MOS as the "experts" didnt know thier from thier elbow. Now that has happened and Sam didn't win it last year, people are complaining about that.

I've never said at any point that Chase is the better player, but simply whinging that Sam didn't win it due to what you're all claiming as 'Biased voting' is typical Wigan paranoia. I know Sam is the better all round player than Chase, but maybe, just maybe, the players have a different opinion?

Maybe the players thought that one man dragging a team around the park and making them competitive was worth the award?

Until I see some proof instead of rumours and hearsay, i'll say that the players player award is the best way to go about this.

Now if the shortlist this year is Richie Mathers, Karl Pryce & Sam, and Sam still doesn't win, I may be inclined to believe in the conspiracy.

It's not my argument mate, just some other people's opinions.

I can understand why though. Ryan O'Hara on twitter has posted comments regarding Sam Tomkins and Tom Burgess and a few other Bradford players joined a group entitled "Gareth Raynor should be man of the match for knocking out Sam Tomkins". I can't imagine the Leeds players being particularly happy with Sam either.

He gets under the oppositions skin. No denying it.

Like another poster said perhaps the players thought that chase draggin cas around and making them competetive was more deserving. Tomkins is the better player but he also plays in a much better team so he has a better platform to work off where as cas are pretty much reliant on chase.