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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Many years ago Alex Ferguson was being hounded out of Old Trafford by the fans after finishing in the lower half of he table for two years.
However, in 1990 they managed to win the F.A. Cup and the rest as they say is history.
Could a Challenge Cup win do the same for Brian Noble?
Food for thought, and discussion.'"
i was just thinking the same thing this morning!
funny seeing a post devoted to it
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| You feel we need a trophy soon to get any sort of ball rolling in terms of Noble having a 10+ year future here.
If we get that i feel the confidence that would bring to alot of our more senior(but still young-ish like Lockers, Hock, Leuluai etc) players would take them on a level and produce more of a confident and winning mentality around the squad for more youngsters to come into.
I really do think this next 5-6 months is a huge period for the club.
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| I dont think Noble tends to be feared by his own players as Taggart seems to be at man u, the thought of Noble becoming of the same ilk is exciting and id love to see success coming Nobles way i just doubt it..
But hey, i remember the cup final in 1990 and old bandy legs Leighton being dropped which was a brave decision that paid off ala Ainscough being dropped so heres hoping
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| IMO if we win a trophy in the next 2 seasons that will be the moment to push these players confidence over the edge.And could be the start of something good at wigan. always seems a confidence thing with most of the players.a trophy and they will start to believe
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| This year is our best chance to wi the challenge cup if we get past salford the semi will be at a neutral venue and than it would be the final.
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| Quote ="those were the days"This year is our best chance to wi the challenge cup if we get past salford the semi will be at a neutral venue and than it would be the final.'"
Is there something missing from this post?
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| I think that the sheer expectation from the fans when Noble was appointed is a major factor in the pressure heaped on the team and him from us (granted we have the squad capable of winning or at least challenging for honours). DW's quote during the press conference was something along the lines of "I am 100% positive Wigan Warriors will win a trophy in the next 3 years."
That in itself is a very risky remark and one that has blown right up in BN's face. Now this isn't an excuse for our lack-lustre (sp?) performances, nor is it questioning the amount of pressure we heap upon our club to perform.
Wigan Warriors winning the SL again is a long way off - I think we all realise that, however I do believe we are in with a massive shout to lift the CC this year.
We have a fantastic youth development system in place;
-Lockers
-Hock
-Hansen
-McIlorum
-J + S Tomkins
- Ainscough
-Mossop
but to name a few who have/still are progressing through our ranks succesfully and making a name for themselves. In waiting we have talent such as;
- Liam Farrell
- Iain Thornley
- Flanagan
- Gerrard
- Davies
and many more.
To compare it to Ferguson's Man Utd isn't a bad shout IMO, but in order for Wigan to enjoy long-lasting success, this talent we have at our disposal needs to be handled correctly.
Is Noble the man to do that? I can't decide.
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| Quote ="100% Warrior"I think that the sheer expectation from the fans when Noble was appointed is a major factor in the pressure heaped on the team and him from us (granted we have the squad capable of winning or at least challenging for honours). DW's quote during the press conference was something along the lines of "I am 100% positive Wigan Warriors will win a trophy in the next 3 years."
That in itself is a very risky remark and one that has blown right up in BN's face. Now this isn't an excuse for our lack-lustre (sp?) performances, nor is it questioning the amount of pressure we heap upon our club to perform.'"
I think if there was any pressure on Noble it came from the expectation we would kick on after a great run at the end of the 2006 season. With the addition of Barrett and the fact I reckon had we made the play offs in 2006 we would have troubled any side, I think the expectations were high for 2007 and rightly so not because of anything DW said but because Noble had seemingly transformed relegation candidates into a good side.
2007 was a major disappointment rescued by a brief run in the play offs and we did the same thing in 2008. It has been said many times but we have yet to see again the consistency we showed under Noble in the latter of of 2006 and this lack of consistency is what has built the pressure up IMO.
Quote Wigan Warriors winning the SL again is a long way off - I think we all realise that, however I do believe we are in with a massive shout to lift the CC this year.'"
It's probably our best chance since 2002 but there are still some tough sides left in not least HKR and of course Saints.
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| Give every premiership club a salary cap as we have in SL and Fergie would not win half the trophies he has. When he needs a player he will spend 30 million. Aston Villa need a player they will spend `10 million.
Give a salary cap limit on wages then quarter of his best players would have to go.
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| Quote ="cadoo"Booo!'"
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| Quote ="stop-this-song"ill get my coat
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i thought he meant give a good toe job, or write a bestselling kiddies book
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| You mean could Noble knock the scousers off their f-ing perch?
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"You mean could Noble knock the scousers off their f-ing perch?
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Sign Long for a year, and you might have a chance
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| Quote ="Scotty Gibbs"Sign Long for a year, and you might have a chance
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you think he's that good that he alone could turn us around?
if he's that good, why is potter willing to let him go?
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| Quote ="Catalancs"you think he's that good that he alone could turn us around?
if he's that good, why is potter willing to let him go?
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TBH no, I think a couple of good signings next year and with the good young talent you have, you will be toughing it out for top spot.
You have played some good rugby this year, just not every week.
Saints and Wigan CC final this year - you may have a chance with that.
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| I don't think Noble can make Wigan successful.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Many years ago Alex Ferguson was being hounded out of Old Trafford by the fans after finishing in the lower half of he table for two years.
However, in 1990 they managed to win the F.A. Cup and the rest as they say is history.
Could a Challenge Cup win do the same for Brian Noble?
Food for thought, and discussion.'" Clutching at straws springs to mind.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Many years ago Alex Ferguson was being hounded out of Old Trafford by the fans after finishing in the lower half of he table for two years.
However, in 1990 they managed to win the F.A. Cup and the rest as they say is history.
Could a Challenge Cup win do the same for Brian Noble?
Food for thought, and discussion.'"
Never, not even to be mentioned in the same breath. Noble doesn't have Mark Robins.
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| Quote ="Mark"Never, not even to be mentioned in the same breath. Noble doesn't have Mark Robins.'"
Thats the guy who saved him.. Damn him....
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| Quote ="Salty"I don't think Noble can make Wigan successful.'"
I disagree and think he can.
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