I think one thing you cannot highlight from that performance is the forwards.

With the exceptions of Bailey and feka.

Agreed on this form we will be out of the CCup next week.

any grapple tackles or owt last night?

yeah a few went unnoticed

A lot of truth in that post, can't comment on the refs decisions till I've seen more video evidence. Both defences were very good, they had to be at 8-10 with 6 mins to go.
Refereeing performances have gone downhill since Cummins took over and they won't get any better until Cummins makes them accountable for their decisions, but they do a very tough job which none of us would like to do, so we've just got to deal with it. All Cummins will say is "the ref didn't make you drop the ball, the ref didn't make you knock on etc etc".
Every team is going to get tough calls now and again but lets just get on with it and enjoy the game we love. See you all later, down at the "pharm" for round 2. Good luck till then.

dont be daft! this isnt a good assement at all, we are dire, no passion, no urgency, cant even play basic rugby, a team playing like hudds we should have blown away last night, they did nothing special nothing more than 5 drives and a kick, and we couldnt handle it, you cant blame the ref, you play what is in front of u, no matter what, the fact our players and our coach dont have the ability to see that is the problem here. we where playing for penalites they whole game, why we are playing like a bunch of fooballers is beyond me. oh look im ranting again, the club is in dire straights, ive never seen a gulf between the fans and the club as big as it is now, we will still turn up because we are loyal, i have no idea how to fix this but somthing needs to be done before the club dies

Well said mate

Not good enough simple as

Agree with most of that.



Yes, we tried up the jumper, throwing it about and fighting and none of it was able to counteract grapple tackles and holding down. A strong ref tonight would have seen Hudds penalised out of sight.

a good opposition tonight might have given us a game

I'M FED UP WITH ALL THIS BLAMING THE REF

we dropped the ball 3 times over the line
we dropped the ball severasl times in the red zone
we refused to try anything different all game
no scoots from the ptb
no early kicks
no 40-20 attempts
no offloads from anyone bar hock
we had a man advantage for 10 mins and still looked clueless

to me - we showed a lot of our usual failing. we play well fo 20, dont convert possession to points and then start losing composure.
when weve played well this year, its behind a good pack display, and a lively hooker performance (both were missing)

the fact is saints, leeds would have hammered hudds with the possession we had.
the ref wasnt good - but he wasnt the reason we lost. we were worse

I'm not in a state of panic.


Much worse that that




I've started to not care that much!

from both sides

I completely agree.

I'm extremely disappointed with losing the game last night but things are nowhere near as bad as some are making out.

You dont reckon having our worst start to a season in over 20 years, losing at home to cas, wakey, hudds isn't bad.
I mean we beat Salford ffs, bradford who will probably never play that bad again ever, n were lucky to beat quins.
You not wrong its nowhere near as bad as some are making.

There is no panic.

You can't win games with poor completion rates like Wigan had last night as you can't build pressure. It wasn't the refs fault we dropped the ball, but it ws his fault for allowing them to slow our play the ball and reduce our momentum.

Either way, if we had a half decent compleion rat we'd have won the game.

The panic comes from the fact that our completion rate most weeks is poor and does not seem to be improving.

If you could see an improvement in standards then I would agree but Nobby is quickly running out of players to drop to try to improve matters.

It's true we're up and down, so yes consistancy is a worry.

If we were not competing in games then there would be panic, there are problems but not panic stations.

Well I'm panicking !

We play Barrow next week............. then saints.

Our defence has been dire against decent opposition, and we might get a 'real caning' to be sure, against saints.

you got to love it, 1 loss and the "Don't Panic" brigade and the "Keep the faith" Loonies are out in force, heaven help us if we get on the end of a big losing streak.

I think we will get to the playoffs win a couple of games lose against leeds,end the season on a high,buy players who are pass their sell buy date ,the we will get all the hype that next season will be better than the last,which will boost the sale of season tickets....er sorry hasn`t this happened before

Wigan again suffered from the imbalance of implementation.

For me Wigan had improved in their defensive qualities compared to last weekend against Salford were we let Salford make far too many yards. I thought that Wigan controlled Huddersfield well and kept their forwards at bay and made it harder for them to kick in any advanced positions.

The problem Wigan had however was utlilising this defence and taking advantage of our decent attacking positions. We decided to play the same one-out rugby league which was so predictable it was laughable. Thomas Leuluai, despite having a good game with ball in hand IMO, was shocking with his kicks and it was so obvious but we continued to give him the ball on the last rather than mix things up and give it to Sam or Pat.

When Sam did get the ball he just kicked the grubber down the right and it David Hodgson covered it easily most of the night. We also went down the left thinking 'Ainscough can score so we must be able to get him over at least once tonight' and Hudds covered that part of the field with consummate ease.

Wigan then fell into the old error prone, ill disciplined side of old and despite and absolutely shocking refereeing performance from Phil Bentham never would have won that game.

Brian Noble needs somebody to help him because he seems incapable of improving one aspect of the sides game and continuing the progress of another aspect which has already improved.

Current attendances trend suggests that by the time 'It is to panic', there will be nobody left in their seats to panic!

Why should we panic?
We are all used to this.
That's why there was only 11670 on and with a record Hudds away crowd (400?).

Correct. And when people who are normally passionate about their RL post stuff like this. Then it's time to start looking at things.



I'm in a similar state of mind to this. I'm losing interest rapidly with our team. It's a shame really but I'm not seeing anything from them that gets me excited. Is that the coach's fault? The player's fault? The Chairman's fault?.

I was losing interest last season but we were winning and I said at the time that I'd take that but we're not even winning now. I appreciate that things are a little different this year and apart from Saints and Leeds the table is a little topsy turvy to what we'd expect but we should still have won more than we have. Quins has always been a difficult game so to come away from there with a win was a good result but Bradford have been crap all year.

How long does IL give Nobby? We'll beat Barrow but I fear about what Saints will do to us.