who else is at fault
he buy's, trains and picks the team its obvious he cant install a winning mentality into a team because even with our squad as it is now we should still be able to put 30 on a second string wakey team which we couldn't.
he has had his time at wigan and should go now befor we end up futher behind the pack its no good saying its won in october not feb points on the board count now and the futher behind you fall the harder it is to catch up.

when has that pack knocked the 'poop' out of any packs this year?

Exactly, Catalans took them to school last week.

yes.......noble is at fault.

if the problems the players attitudes he needs to sort it.
if its just bad game plans he needs to change it
if its bad selection he needs to change that.

if its just bad management he needs to go

Warrington is one of only two teams that we can still laugh at so far this year!

No it's not all Noble's fault.
Noble has won the lot and repeatedly, when he had the players.
He won't win anything here until we have better players.
That's front row, halves, centres & FB. We are ok back row and wings that's all. We need 6-7 new players and better than the ones we've got.
Brian Noble can identify them but he can't do anything unless Ian Lenagan signs the cheques and brings them in.
The lack of effort and concentration plus poor spirit is down to him. However, if those problems are due to the players themselves knowing they aren't good enough then it's down to both Noble and Lenagan to sort and quickly.
Like all poor performances by companies be they sports or anything else, the responsibility lies with the owners & BOD!
Wigan RLFC is no exception.

When has our pack done anything this year?

if it's not down to noble then maybe the drinking culture should be knocked on the head, regular breath tests and substantial fines for those found to be over a pre ordaned unit level, ain't nowt wrong with a few bevies now and then but being rat d ed several nights a week is uncalled for

as i have said before wigan was the best team because they had the best players etc. now leeds and st helens have been better at identifiing better players under the salery cap

Is the other one us?

Aye, 12-0 down to Wakey inside 15 mins

can't believe how $hite they are, all that expensive talent and they are Tommy Tank

totally agree. nobby doesnt sign the players as people suggest, he suggests players. IL has final say. from there yes nobby should be doing a better job of the training and mentality but he can only work with what he is given.

signings wise, use of cap wise IL is no better than Mo for mine

Hi brian

Thing is dont come out with daft comments like we should get rugby onion players playing league!

No bring the young british talent through and give them a shot

The arrogance and bitterness is still there weeks later after a further 2 defeats, you have a crap coach and your squad is not anywhere near as good as you seem to think.

Get over it already.

Nice avatar . Now get over it . Oh! the irony In your sig

noble has his excuses on a dice, he roll's it and use's the one that land's face up. re- the kid's, we all know he'd rather bring in an aussie. unless he has no choice

If you think i am climbing over Mount Solos Belly you have another thing coming, i managed Snowdon 3 times but i think that would just be a bridge too far. Poor basement dwellers. What do you bring to SL i really do despair, give Leigh a franchise now.

you've been owned

Short answer yes, long ansswer potentially not but yes, real answer, yes.

Of course i have darling.

How do you know the players that have been signed were`nt suggested by Noble

In some peoples eyes i am not sure he is responsible for anything at the club. The man is like Teflon in some peoples eyes and they chose to blame everyone at the club apart from BN, others are of course at fault but the major problem is clearly Noble in my opinion.

In short of course he is responsible.

Noble selects the team and picks the players, badly, and I dont believe for one moment that he has no say in the players that we sign. In particular Phelps and Smith have been awful signings. He chooses the tactics, again which are wrong with the team that we have. These tactics have resulted in the most boring and predictable rugby I have ever seen. He trains the players and would also have a say in their conditioning. We have Riddell and Smith who are 2 players that are no where near match fit but still play each week, what happened to earning your place in the reserves. Smith was no where near fit last year and should have been brought back for pre-season training long before the others. We were awful for 80% of last season but some fans are clouded by 2 decent games in the play offs. The major problem though is that Noble has lost the dressing room. It is obvious that the players dont respect him and dont want to play for him. He has to go for the club to move forward.

Couldn't agree more mate