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| Quote ="thepriestman85"Regardless of if you like Long or not he would have been a good signing for a number of reasons. Not only is he a good player who would have kicked us around the park well but being a local lad he would have settled in almost straight away.
If it was a choice between him and Orford who was the other so called option I'd take Long 9 times out of 10!'"
I respectfully disagree.
I think there are a far longer list of reasons why we shouldn't even have made an offer if indeed we did.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"James Graham, Ryan Hall, Kyle Eastmond, Jamie Peacock.'"
Not enough money for both Eastmond and Hall, which one would you pick then?
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| Quote ="post"Not enough money for both Eastmond and Hall, which one would you pick then?'"
Hall as Eastmond has 'distractions'.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Hall as Eastmond has 'distractions'.'"
I'm a bit unsure about Hall he is an athlete but he doesn't seem to be a natural rugby player if you get what I mean, he runs with the ball a but awkward like someone who has never played before.
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| Quote ="post"I'm a bit unsure about Hall he is an athlete but he doesn't seem to be a natural rugby player if you get what I mean, he runs with the ball a but awkward like someone who has never played before.'"
Roberts looks like he came out running with a ball. You have Roberts and I'll bring in Hall
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Roberts looks like he came out running with a ball. You have Roberts and I'll bring in Hall
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Roberts looks like he came out with a ball, smoking a cigar lay in a deckchair!
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| Quote ="post"Right, if every player in Superleague was out of contract as of now and every player wanted to come to Wigan which players would you sign bearing in mind we only have enough for 1 or 2 world class players or a 3 or 4 average players? Adding to our current squad with Bailey joining the backroom staff for a season.
For me I would take Morley, Brough and if there was anything left Wheeler.'"
Graham and Ali Lauititi.
Graham because our pack badly needs somebody with that sort of engine that doesn't stp going forward and Ali Lauititi because he can win you games on his own with a piece of magic when brought on from the bench.
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| Quote ="post"Roberts looks like he came out with a ball, smoking a cigar lay in a deckchair!'"
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| Quote ="MadDogg"I respectfully disagree.
I think there are a far longer list of reasons why we shouldn't even have made an offer if indeed we did.'"
No problems as that's what forum is all about. No one is gonna agree on everything on here.
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| two p;ayers that impressed me today at the grand final who look to be available are grothe jnr and Moi Moi. Would take them both. Moi Moi as the prop we need and Grothe in a swap for amos. grothe would cost no more and although maybe not as quick as amos, big, strong and his positional play is far better. Fui was brutal in his hits tonight plus he played for 50 mins. Hardly an impact prop but definately an enforcer
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| I'm not sure where this idea has come from that Moi Moi is available.
The last I heard the chief exec of the Eels had flatly stated he was going nowhere next season.
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| Quote ="lothlorian"two p;ayers that impressed me today at the grand final who look to be available are grothe jnr and Moi Moi. Would take them both. Moi Moi as the prop we need and Grothe in a swap for amos. grothe would cost no more and although maybe not as quick as amos, big, strong and his positional play is far better. Fui was brutal in his hits tonight plus he played for 50 mins. Hardly an impact prop but definately an enforcer'"
Thought Billy Slater was immense. Grothe is rumoured to be one of the Eels players 'available'. Moi Moi has been given the 'hands off' tag.
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No problems as that's what forum is all about. No one is gonna agree on everything on here.'"
I don't quite believe it. A DISAGREEMENT that's ended PEACEFULLY??!!!
I need a lie down
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Thought Billy Slater was immense. Grothe is rumoured to be one of the Eels players 'available'. Moi Moi has been given the 'hands off' tag.'"
Can you imagine Bill Slater in superleague It would just be plain cruel on the sides having to face him.
Just finished watching the Aussie Grand Final first half and Salter has been on fire. As for the new golden boy Hayne who told him he can kick!!! A terrible display from him in the first half.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Can you imagine Bill Slater in superleague
It would just be plain cruel on the sides having to face him.
Just finished watching the Aussie Grand Final first half and Salter has been on fire. As for the new golden boy Hayne who told him he can kick!!! A terrible display from him in the first half.'"
Looked very nervous. Scary to think he might not make it into the Australia team, isn't it?
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I don't quite believe it. A DISAGREEMENT that's ended PEACEFULLY??!!!
I need a lie down
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When i comes to Long I’m not going to change anyone's mind on here so why argue.
Far to many people get wound up on here when someone disagrees with them.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Looked very nervous. Scary to think he might not make it into the Australia team, isn't it?'"
Too right aswell as guys like Brett Stewart, Trent Barrett, Cooper Cronk, Michael Jennings etc etc who probably won't be selected in the 17 yet would go down as English ledgends.
Our hopes lie fully in the pack.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Too right aswell as guys like Brett Stewart, Trent Barrett, Cooper Cronk, Michael Jennings etc etc who probably won't be selected in the 17 yet would go down as English ledgends.
Our hopes lie fully in the pack.'"
Hear about the young lad (from Halifax I think) who played full back in the Toyota Cup Grand Final. The Aussie posters were praising him and when Aussies praise a Brit you know he's a bit special.
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"When i comes to Long I’m not going to change anyone's mind on here so why argue.
Far to many people get wound up on here when someone disagrees with them.'"
I understood where you was coming from re-Long.
Maybe 2 seasons ago I'd of jumped at the oppurtunity to sign him for Wigan. As for now, well I'm not too sure. He certainly would direct us around the park, but would the Wigan crowd warm to him? Remains to be seen. Also as someone else said he has been quite poor this season.
We still could do with a 7 though IMO.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Too right aswell as guys like Brett Stewart, Trent Barrett, Cooper Cronk, Michael Jennings etc etc who probably won't be selected in the 17 yet would go down as English ledgends.
Our hopes lie fully in the pack.'"
And thats why we will never win
Their strength in depth in the backs is phenomenal and it doesn't bode well when you just look at the HB's
Barrett
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Each one is better than any of our backs.
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| Quote ="100% Warrior"I understood where you was coming from re-Long.
Maybe 2 seasons ago I'd of jumped at the oppurtunity to sign him for Wigan. As for now, well I'm not too sure. He certainly would direct us around the park, but would the Wigan crowd warm to him? Remains to be seen. Also as someone else said he has been quite poor this season.
We still could do with a 7 though IMO.'"
There are defiantly better options out there but that's not to say Long would have been a bad option either.
I posted earlier about the depth there is in the NRL at HB so surely there has to be a player like Dobson playing in the reserves somewhere not getting game time?
Instead of looking for the likes of Orford lets look at players like Luke Walsh etc who will give a far better service to the club in the long run.
Lets try to find a long term partner for Sam.
Lets hope Maguire knows some good young talent out there.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"They copuld have a million crackerjack half backs, but at the end of the day they can only play two of them.'"
But the difference is each one has to be on the top of their game as they know they have players like Barrett ready to step in.
Can the same really be said of ours?
I'm a firm believer that competition breads success.
The Aussies aren’t weak in any position in the backs which shows how far we have to go and how good we have to be on a one off day to beat them.
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"But the difference is each one has to be on the top of their game as they know they have players like Barrett ready to step in.
Can the same really be said of ours?
I'm a firm believer that competition breads success.
The Aussies aren’t weak in any position in the backs which shows how far we have to go and how good we have to be on a one off day to beat them.'"
The pressure is there and I'd love that to be the case with us. However like I said, they can only play two half backs at a time. Look at Jarryd Hayne this morning. Arguably the greatest player on Earth at the moment and he was well off his game. He himself admitted to overplaying it.
Billy Slater made some really poor decisions in the World Cup final and we all know what happened that day.
Even the best have off days.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"The pressure is there and I'd love that to be the case with us. However like I said, they can only play two half backs at a time. Look at Jarryd Hayne this morning. Arguably the greatest player on Earth at the moment and he was well off his game. He himself admitted to overplaying it.
Billy Slater made some really poor decisions in the World Cup final and we all know what happened that day.
Even the best have off days.'"
True but very often is it that you get into a situation were you have to just beat Australia once. In fact it only happens every four years and then you've got to get to the final to have a chance.
Other than that it's normally the best of three etc which is why we haven't one very many.
We can win the odd game but never back it up with a repeat victory in the next.
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