Well whether you would call me previous comments "uneducated" is a matter of opinion.


You asked me a question, I gave you an answer.


Now had the question been "would I prefer Greg versus Andrew Johns?"



.......


Johns by a country mile.





Would I prefer Johns to Murphy


Well from the (admitedly brief) glimpses of what I have seen..............

Johns by a mile.


I'm not sure what point ur making?

That a player from 20 years ago who wasnt as fit etc etc etc playing against (Again in your words) Part time Beer bellied Neanderthals was better than a current World Cup Winning Internation Sooper Dooper League Player!

You based your argument on Johns being Better than Murphy, despite never seeing Murphy play, based on the logic that Murphy only played agains Part time unfit pub players!

Your opinion of who was the better player is that, your opinion and one that your entitled to have!

Your logic behind why you made that decision was/is complete and utter drivel that was disrespectful and ill informed to say the very least!

That Brett Kenny eh. All he had to play against on tour were big fat c####s like Neil Courtney and (jeez) Paul Rose. Gimme Lee Briers, he plays against full time athletes does Lee. Proper stand off.

On the original subject, though I dont think he was the best centre ever, I always liked Dave Stephenson. Did a job on Miles in the WCC. Mind you Miles only played against fat g#ts, not like that Michael Platt, now theres a centre, and if they scrapped that communist salary cap EVERYONE would be legends except Saints, especially Wigan blah blah blah....nurse NURSE!!

Power to the people.

When you say "World cup player" don't forget TL played 9.


Now re-read your post.

Andy your forgetting though, Murphy once played for Saints, so in Mr Kenny's eyes nothing good can be said about him. I blame the salary cap if im honest, It's the only reason we are where we are now apparently.

I think your nurse is on her/his*way..............


* not to antagonise the liberals amongst us

No not the "only" reason. But the primary reason.


Do you disagree?

Ahh so it's changed from the only reason the other day, to the primary reason now? Oh and to answer your question no I don't agree with you. Please explain as to why you believe this?

Did you have to?

Sorry mate! I just cant resist the classic argument of, you have an unfair advantage because you can only spend the same as everyone else.

Has it?


Provide a link or .............well "go away".

Unless you find a way round it!



Any ideas?

Ok then Gregory against "ANY OTHER SCRUM HALF IN SL" if you want to be so Pedantic!

Point is you made an idiotic statement and can't bring yourself just once to admit you were wrong.

Not about who was the better player, but your reasoning behind it!

?

I'ts an obvious logic. However, for the umpteenth time..................


1. IF there was no CC, then small teams (such as Stains) would be unable to compete with larger teams such as Leeds or Wigan.


The "advantage" if you like, is that you are punching above your natural weight.

Now I have never called this an advantage. It's just an expression of fact. Scrap the CC and Stains would fall back into the middle of the pile.


That's why so many Stains fans are so supportive of the CC.

Perhaps this

Ahhh yes that's why before a salary cap came in Leeds were so successful wasnt it?
I mean everybody knows Leeds 3 Championship's to our 7 before the start of Super league would suggest a major dominance wouldnt it?


If as you say it is the Primary reason, what stops the other so called "smaller" clubs such as Huddersfield, Hull e.t.c From winning the Super League?

I have no idea mate, maybe you should ask the Warrington fans for some advice?

One thing you have to take into account when judging players from years ago and today is the ten metre rule. Of course there's different conditioning and all that but the skills are completely different. If the ten metre rule was abolished, todays halfbacks would get absolutely snotted and it would take years until we had players who were good enough to create a gap. Players from the past who possessed these skills would, with the right conditioning be amazing in Super League. And as for players being stronger and fitter today, obviously its a hypothetical argument but abolish substitutions and I know who my money would be on.

Well let's replace Leeds with Wigan shall we?


So that's the end of that argument.


With regard to Huddersfield and Hull...........


Actually I would seperate the two.


Huddersfield are a small club and Hull are a medium/big club (bigger than Stains imo)



Right. The CC "as was" ensured that big clubs were "pegged back", whilst small clubs could not compete. The relative beneficiaries were medium clubs such as Stains. Call it the "Goldilocks zone". Bigger clubs couldn't "outspend" them, smaller clubs couldn't compete.

The CC was a rule made in heaven for Stains.


The bizzare new CC.............I am not sure.........................time will tell.

Anyway, Adrian Lam. Cracking half back, very creative and always made you nervous when he had the ball. Jason Robinson was another, nobody could ever get hold of him.

The single most stupid post i have ever read on here. Congratulations.

Jesus!!! Going through this thread post by post, i seriously

fot you, especially given your alleged great debating skills



I hope you are drunk as this is the most idiotic stance i have ever read on here.

A drugs cheat

One of the best players i have ever seen was Brett Kenny, but due to the fact he was playing against part time players he was actually clearly crap, give me Lee Briers anyday

I suppose we can clearly say that players who played in the past are crap.

But the players of today ?

Well they are great.