So you would be happy playing the next couple of games with just 2 front lines props then ?

Is Prescott definitely missing for Wakey?

just watched a couple of clips on that video sharing site.. He certainly isnt shy

Having met Ben Cross today, he also is one big unit !!!!

I remember the last so called over the hill prop we signed on a short term deal...And If Cross plays half as well as Mr Pongia then i for one will be very happy.

Why did you meet him?

He will ad some weight and aggression up front, which i think were in desperate need of. Look at the way Leeds rolled up against us and Catalan and Warrington bossing game up the middle.

Wise move by McGuire and Lenagan if you ask me.

i would take madge's judgement of a player any day

give the guy a chance ffs

Do you live your life by sound-bites?

To complain that we've "signed a cast-off" is to ignore all sorts of other pertinent factors, not least the way he was treated at Leeds, which is basically a sinking ship, and the current state of our own forwards' fitness.

We need extra fire-power in the front row. This guy has a great pedigree, which his short-term problems at Leeds have no actual bearing on. If you consider those simple facts, you [uwill[/u understand.

yet again, this thread as decended into name calling,
thanks

Where's the name calling?
You stated that you couldn't understand the reason for signing Cross. A few posters have given their views on why he was signed.

He was "Measuring" him up for his New Work Clothes!

It seems to me that people are focussing too much on his age and his time at Leeds.

Had we signed him straight from the NRL instead of from Leeds I'm pretty sure people would be jumping for joy.

Coley was an average forward before being coached by Madge, Wane and Bitcon.
Mossop and Prescott were both going through the motions before these 3 guys were in charge.
Fieldens career was going down hill, is it a coincidence that he started to play better when these guys took over?

Cross has made a bigger name for himself than Coley, Prescott and Mossop. He didn't do it by fluke, the guys was a class act back in the NRL, not every player gets picked to play front row at Origin level. So if our coaching staff can turn a solid but pretty average Coley into one of the best props in super league and they can convert Mossop and Prescott into a future dominating front row then I'm pretty sure they can work a little magic with an ex Origin player who was once one of the top props in the NRL.

When Fielden was playing rubbish everyone always said they wanted him to return to old form. People said 'he's got it in him' .... so has Cross, his talent just needs to be released so he can run wild.

Give him a few weeks and I bet he will do a good job for us. Even if he doesn't suddenly end up being MOS, surely a half decent prop with bags of experience is better than having no prop at all?

Finally, he has played at the highest level in aus and can pass on some experience to Mossop and Prescott etc. while he is here. He will surely be a decent bloke to have around the dressing room and I think he will help add some agression.

For less than half the season and probably on peanuts... how can this possibly be a bad idea?

Not overjoyed. Lets see what he can do though

I reckon you'd be even less overjoyed if we didn't sign anyone and then found ourselves with only two fit props as the business end approaches.

Quote ="Odemwingie"It seems to me that people are focussing too much on his age and his time at Leeds. Had we signed him straight from the NRL instead of from Leeds I'm pretty sure people would be jumping for joy. Coley was an average forward before being coached by Madge, Wane and Bitcon. Mossop and Prescott were both going through the motions before these 3 guys were in charge. Fieldens career was going down hill, is it a coincidence that he started to play better when these guys took over? Cross has made a bigger name for himself than Coley, Prescott and Mossop. He didn't do it by fluke, the guys was a class act back in the NRL, not every player gets picked to play front row at Origin level. So if our coaching staff can turn a solid but pretty average Coley into one of the best props in super league and they can convert Mossop and Prescott into a future dominating front row then I'm pretty sure they can work a little magic with an ex Origin player who was once one of the top props in the NRL. When Fielden was playing rubbish everyone always said they wanted him to return to old form. People said 'he's got it in him' .... so has Cross, his talent just needs to be released so he can run wild. Give him a few weeks and I bet he will do a good job for us. Even if he doesn't suddenly end up being MOS, surely a half decent prop with bags of experience is better than having no prop at all? Finally, he has played at the highest level in aus and can pass on some experience to Mossop and Prescott etc. while he is here. He will surely be a decent bloke to have around the dressing room and I think he will help add some agression. For less than half the season and probably on peanuts... how can this possibly be a bad idea?'" Don't know, why don't you go back in time and speak to yourself on 22 June 2011:- Quote We just don't need him. If they get injured we have Hock and O'Carroll to fill in.'" viewtopic.php?f=28&t=498586&p=16226006#p16226006 Credit to Keithcun for spotting this and apologies for ripping it off almost immediately.

Quote ="Odemwingie"It seems to me that people are focussing too much on his age and his time at Leeds. Had we signed him straight from the NRL instead of from Leeds I'm pretty sure people would be jumping for joy. Coley was an average forward before being coached by Madge, Wane and Bitcon. Mossop and Prescott were both going through the motions before these 3 guys were in charge. Fieldens career was going down hill, is it a coincidence that he started to play better when these guys took over? Cross has made a bigger name for himself than Coley, Prescott and Mossop. He didn't do it by fluke, the guys was a class act back in the NRL, not every player gets picked to play front row at Origin level. So if our coaching staff can turn a solid but pretty average Coley into one of the best props in super league and they can convert Mossop and Prescott into a future dominating front row then I'm pretty sure they can work a little magic with an ex Origin player who was once one of the top props in the NRL. When Fielden was playing rubbish everyone always said they wanted him to return to old form. People said 'he's got it in him' .... so has Cross, his talent just needs to be released so he can run wild. Give him a few weeks and I bet he will do a good job for us. Even if he doesn't suddenly end up being MOS, surely a half decent prop with bags of experience is better than having no prop at all? Finally, he has played at the highest level in aus and can pass on some experience to Mossop and Prescott etc. while he is here. He will surely be a decent bloke to have around the dressing room and I think he will help add some agression. For less than half the season and probably on peanuts... how can this possibly be a bad idea?'" Don't know, why don't you go back in time and speak to yourself on 22 June 2011:- Quote We just don't need him. If they get injured we have Hock and O'Carroll to fill in.'" viewtopic.php?f=28&t=498586&p=16226006#p16226006 Credit to Keithcun for spotting this and apologies for ripping it off almost immediately.

ATEOTD - Nothing ventured nothing gained, he's only here for 3 months.
Could turn out to be a shrewd short term signing.

Quote ="Ian 77 Redux"Don't know, why don't you go back in time and speak to yourself on 22 June 2011:- viewtopic.php?f=28&t=498586&p=16226006#p16226006 Credit to Keithcun for spotting this and apologies for ripping it off almost immediately.'" Cant people change their opinions ?

Quote ="Ian 77 Redux"Don't know, why don't you go back in time and speak to yourself on 22 June 2011:- viewtopic.php?f=28&t=498586&p=16226006#p16226006 Credit to Keithcun for spotting this and apologies for ripping it off almost immediately.'" Cant people change their opinions ?

Exactly. I can't see how there can possibly be any down side to signing an extra (State of Origin experienced) body for the squad, especially at prop.

Shrewd work from Wigan I reckon.

Quote ="Ian 77 Redux"Don't know, why don't you go back in time and speak to yourself on 22 June 2011:- viewtopic.php?f=28&t=498586&p=16226006#p16226006 Credit to Keithcun for spotting this and apologies for ripping it off almost immediately.'" We didnt have the injuries we have now though!!!! Prescott was still fit. We now NEED a forward for the squad. I was also being very one-eyed and looking at his time in Leeds rather than the NRL.

Quote ="Ian 77 Redux"Don't know, why don't you go back in time and speak to yourself on 22 June 2011:- viewtopic.php?f=28&t=498586&p=16226006#p16226006 Credit to Keithcun for spotting this and apologies for ripping it off almost immediately.'" We didnt have the injuries we have now though!!!! Prescott was still fit. We now NEED a forward for the squad. I was also being very one-eyed and looking at his time in Leeds rather than the NRL.

im not being funny but you bring it on yourself with the amout of crap you post.

anyone with a braincell knows he is a usefull signing for the rest of the season.

Cross is playing in the U20's on Saturday. Hopefully O'Carroll will also feature in that game. www.wiganwarriors.com/WContent.a ... &type=news

Cross is playing in the U20's on Saturday. Hopefully O'Carroll will also feature in that game. www.wiganwarriors.com/WContent.a ... &type=news

I find it funny when people ignore his performances this season and just say “state of origin” as though that automatically means he still has the ability to be class in SL....and at least 50 percent of the people saying his been class since 2003 have not seen him play in the NRL bar highlights.

Saying that his an ex SOO origin forward who played in the NRL for years so i am sure he will be a great short term signing for Wigan.

You are missing the point.

What the more reasoned of us are saying is that it is a good short term signing in a position where we have been two players down ALL year.