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| The result yesterday was excellent, however, the performance was far from it.
We can't simply forget the previous three games. Before the start of the season we all felt we could go unbeaten until Leeds away, and what we all really wanted to see was some good, attacking rugby.
We simply haven't seen that in either the three losses, or last night. We have looked clueless in attack; one man rugby, too many basic errors and no kicking game what so ever.
The result last night was as good as it could have been i.e. a win, however, the performances and start to the season in general has been woeful, and I saw nothing last night bar good performances from the youngsters to suggest to me that we are anywhere near competing with the best in the competition.
Noble must go.
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| Quote ="Panda Antics"The result yesterday was excellent, however, the performance was far from it.
We can't simply forget the previous three games. Before the start of the season we all felt we could go unbeaten until Leeds away, and what we all really wanted to see was some good, attacking rugby.
We simply haven't seen that in either the three losses, or last night. We have looked clueless in attack; one man rugby, too many basic errors and no kicking game what so ever.
The result last night was as good as it could have been i.e. a win, however, the performances and start to the season in general has been woeful, and I saw nothing last night bar good performances from the youngsters to suggest to me that we are anywhere near competing with the best in the competition.
Noble must go.'"
Is this the new buzz phrase? How did we look 'clueless in attack' last night? All our tries were excellent including a contender for 'try of the season'!!! I'll accept the criticism of defensive lapses but please stop regurgitating the stock phrases because you thought they sounded good when someone else used them in the context of some other game where it was actually applicable!
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"Is this the new buzz phrase? How did we look 'clueless in attack' last night? All our tries were excellent including a contender for 'try of the season'!!!'"
Our tries came from good breaks, 3 or 4 breaks in a whole match constituted our entire attack.
We have a complete inability to build pressure and get a number of sets of six on the bounce or even a number of sets of six in the opponents half.
As I said, in general there is very little support play, we play '5 drives and a kick' rugby, we attempt to offload in impossible positions because there's b*gger all else on, we take the ball standing still, our attacking line is as flat as a pancake, we have no kicking game (which contributes to the fact we can't get one set of 6 after another), we make basic mistakes i.e. silly handling errors, our half backs fail to control the game, our pack is getting dominated and I don't think I've seen a set move, even as something as simple as a scissors all season.
I could go on, but I think it's safe to conclude we are in fact clueless in attack. It is entirely predictable what we are going to do.
Quote but please stop regurgitating the stock phrases because you thought they sounded good when someone else used them in the context of some other game where it was actually applicable!'"
I haven't read any other comments on here for quite a while but the phrase 'clueless in attack' has been applicable to Noble's entire Wigan reign.
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| Quote ="Panda Antics"Our tries came from good breaks, 3 or 4 breaks in a whole match constituted our entire attack.
We have a complete inability to build pressure and get a number of sets of six on the bounce or even a number of sets of six in the opponents half.
As I said, in general there is very little support play, we play '5 drives and a kick' rugby, we attempt to offload in impossible positions because there's b*gger all else on, we take the ball standing still, our attacking line is as flat as a pancake, we have no kicking game (which contributes to the fact we can't get one set of 6 after another), we make basic mistakes i.e. silly handling errors, our half backs fail to control the game, our pack is getting dominated and I don't think I've seen a set move, even as something as simple as a scissors all season.
I could go on, but I think it's safe to conclude we are in fact clueless in attack. It is entirely predictable what we are going to do.
I haven't read any other comments on here for quite a while but the phrase 'clueless in attack' has been applicable to Noble's entire Wigan reign.'"
And there I was thinking points scored was the best indicator of the effectiveness in attack. Shows what I know.
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| Im still not convinced at all, PLB is far too slow, we cant get the opposition on the back foot often enough. The defensive line wasnt much better IMO Quins went through us alot without finishing tries off, another day that game could of been lost before H/T.
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"Shows what I know.'"
You said it.
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| Only just come across this thread after being away for the weekend and one i fully expected though i have to say.
BN owes a still drink to the 2 lads who were it not for injury would not have got a game, and a stiffer one to Chad Randall. We did not win that game Quins lost it.
Having said that i have to say the signs of improvement were there, and finally although it still took over a half of comedy errors in the defence out wide we moved forward as a unit, its a shame it takes nearly 3 years for him to recognise his method was not working, if indeed it was him who called the shots for it to be changed during the game.
I hope to god Noble can learn from these lessons on Saturday, it was still a pretty average perfomance, but there were huge indications and signs to where and how we can improve and build some momentum. BN seem to adopt the osterich mentality to these in the past, lets hope he can see them and use them to his personal development for the good of the team and his own career, otherwise Saturday was simply a stay of execution.
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| Is Nobles contract up at the end of this season?
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| I was right, Noble was built on the win at Quins and we looked a hell of allot better this time out, another silent week for the Nobby doubters.
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| Quote ="TrentBarrett"I was right, Noble was built on the win at Quins and we looked a hell of allot better this time out, another silent week for the Nobby doubters.'"
No, Im sure they will claim this is down to the players / fan pressure or something. The man will never win some fans over. But clearly we are putting humpty together in positive way in relation to what we might achieve.
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| he s either listening to the fans or he s sence an what were all seeing ,
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stand now how can any of them get in the team after that performance we looked very well ballanced tonight ,
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| Quote ="TrentBarrett"I was right, Noble was built on the win at Quins and we looked a hell of allot better this time out, another silent week for the Nobby doubters.'"
Fair play to him and deserves a lot of credit tonight just like he has in the past deserved criticism.
Long may it continue.
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| Quote ="shooter69"he s either listening to the fans or he s sence an what were all seeing ,
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stand now how can any of them get in the team after that performance we looked very well ballanced tonight ,'"
Sorry but I honestly barely understand your post. (Not having a dig)
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| I was highly critical, and I'll happily eat humble pie if we continue to play like that.
Good effort by everyone, coaching staff and players especially. I really didn't think we had that kind of game in us, we even looked confident and to move the ball in our own 22.
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| We now need Prescott instead of Coley.
I would also like to see us getting the ball out to the wingers more. Especially late on 2night when the game was won I didn't see the point of still ploughing up the middle. We have two dangerous wingers so lets use them!
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| Quote ="nohalfbacks"We now need Prescott instead of Coley.'"
Agreed. Coley is garbage, TBH I didn't even notice he was playing tonight.
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| Quote ="shooter69"he s either listening to the fans or he s sence an what were all seeing ,
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stand now how can any of them get in the team after that performance we looked very well ballanced tonight ,'"
I hope Noble doesn't listen to the fans having some of the rubbish on this forum in recent weeks.
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| Quote ="NickNJ"I hope Noble doesn't listen to the fans having some of the rubbish on this forum in recent weeks.'"
Goes with the saying, not to sure who from I think it was Wayne Bennett:
"If you listen to the fans, it won't be long until your sitting in the stands with them."
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| Quote ="NickNJ"I hope Noble doesn't listen to the fans having some of the rubbish on this forum in recent weeks.'"
Even though the performance tonight was generally based on implimenting the changes most of the critical fans on here's thoughts?
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| Quote ="jonh"Even though the performance tonight was generally based on implimenting the changes most of the critical fans on here's thoughts?'"
Well, he certainly picked the team we would have picked against Wakefield. They were sensational tonight. Not a weak link. Not even Coley. He did okay.
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| Quote ="Salty"Well, he certainly picked the team we would have picked against Wakefield. They were sensational tonight. Not a weak link. Not even Coley. He did okay.'"
We must now be coaching Gods.
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| Quote ="Salty"Well, he certainly picked the team we would have picked against Wakefield. They were sensational tonight. Not a weak link. Not even Coley. He did okay.'"
Can't agree there, he was non-existent for me.
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| Quote ="100% Warrior"Can't agree there, he was non-existent for me.'"
I thought he played ok.
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| An injury to Phelps and a suspension for McIlorum may well have saved Nobles job at Wigan because without those he wouldn't have give debuts to Ainscough and Tomkins. Without those 2 young lads we wouldn't have won the last 2 games. They've not only brough talent into our side but also great attitudes and thats spread to the rest of the side.
A good coach is a lucky coach sometimes and Nobles had a big slice this season.
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| Was shocked when I heard Tim Smith was dropped But if he'd of played then I don't think we'dve put 44 past the Bulls.
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