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| Quote ="NSW"Not a classic hip drop but still ban worthy I reckon.
Nsemba 23 carries for 149metres the other night too. Shame he might miss a game.
Mago strangely went to second row for a bit against Cas in the cup. Surely not mobile enough to defend there for long periods though.'"
Would have to have someone on the bench to cover 2nd row if Mago is standing in. Can eckersley stand in there or is it a massively shoe horning him in
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| If we end up having to shoe horn somebody in I'd probably go for Miski, no idea what his in the middle defence is like and he probably doesn't know either but I wouldn't have any worries about his carting the ball up ability.
Who knows though, maybe MP will decide to give one of the young lads who played in the reserves yesterday a crack.
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| It'll probably end up a ban for Nsemba but that clip is a bit disingenuous as it only shows the part where he is being swung round (and puts it on repeat). Again, this is only from memory from the game live but he affects the tackle earlier than that and keeps his feet until he is swung around as seen in the clip. He doesn't "dive in off his feet" as is being said elsewhere.
If (when) he gets banned it leaves us short in the 2nd row unless Walters is ready to step backup. There's no ready made permanent 2nd rower in the squad. I think we're talking least worst option whichever way we go.
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| It isn't the usual hip drop as Juniors doesn't drop his hip. His whole body is involved in the tackle. Don't see where the problem is.
In any case, if a ban were issued then the club would surely appeal.
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| Dupree is the most natural fit for 2nd row IMO but it'll be interesting to see what Peet's back up plan is.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"Dupree is the most natural fit for 2nd row IMO but it'll be interesting to see what Peet's back up plan is.'"
Yea or could Ellis do a job for us there. Stick O’Neil at 13 and Leeming at dummy half. Or stick chan on to replace Dupree if he’s tired
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| Mago has gone well at loose too when he's played there.
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| Was the Nsemba tackle the one where the Cas player went off injured? If it was he’ll certainly pick up a ban. Not malicious but poor technique.
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| Quote ="apollosghost"If we end up having to shoe horn somebody in I'd probably go for Miski, no idea what his in the middle defence is like and he probably doesn't know either but I wouldn't have any worries about his carting the ball up ability.
Who knows though, maybe MP will decide to give one of the young lads who played in the reserves yesterday a crack.'"
Beardsworth would be the best option from the Reserves, defence is excellent but go forward is not (just yet). TBH I think they will go with Chan.
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| If he gets a ban for that I can only say it’s an absolutely pish rule.
What game am I actually watching
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| Quote ="tugglesf78"If he gets a ban for that I can only say it’s an absolutely pish rule.
What game am I actually watching'"
The way the game is now its a definite ban. I thought the cas player was really unlucky to get 5 for the Isa tackle last week. So im expecting something similar depending how long the player is out for.
I dont agree that should come into the ban but it does .
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| Looks like Nsemba hasn't been cited and is free to play on Friday.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Looks like Nsemba hasn't been cited and is free to play on Friday.'"
Lucky escape and I’ll imagine a few Cas fans will be annoyed with that, rightly so after the ban last week.
We’ll need Nsemba against KR. Be a difficult game against them but Catalan showed big pack can dominate them and they couldn’t match their intensity
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| Quote ="WWste"Lucky escape and I’ll imagine a few Cas fans will be annoyed with that, rightly so after the ban last week.
We’ll need Nsemba against KR. Be a difficult game against them but Catalan showed big pack can dominate them and they couldn’t match their intensity'"
We've got a couple of tough games coming up. Catalans have lost Micky Mac for this week and our game with a 2 match ban btw.
In terms of Nsemba, I think he's fortunate based on what has come before but I do think it's vastly different to the case of the Cas player. He was very harshly treated to get 5 games but he didn't need to put himself in the position he did. In the case of Nsemba, he was just completing a standard tackle and he got swing around by the attacker dipping to his left. One was clumsy and the other a total accident but 5 games was definitely OTT for Namo.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Looks like Nsemba hasn't been cited and is free to play on Friday.'"
Seems my impression of the incident at the game was the correct one. I did fear a ban given the current climate but, despite the disingenuous clip doing the rounds, it was a very typical, everyday tackle. The fact that he gets pulled off his feet really shouldn't be seen as an improper tackling technique.
I'm surprised it wasn't a ban given how these things have been going this season but I think it's a rare case of sanity breaking out. I hope it isn't an isolated occurrence.
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"Seems my impression of the incident at the game was the correct one. I did fear a ban given the current climate but, despite the disingenuous clip doing the rounds, it was a very typical, everyday tackle. The fact that he gets pulled off his feet really shouldn't be seen as an improper tackling technique.
I'm surprised it wasn't a ban given how these things have been going this season but I think it's a rare case of sanity breaking out. I hope it isn't an isolated occurrence.'"
I've said previously I'd love to just focus on the cases that are judged too harshly and if any player, from any club doesn't get punished, when you expected they might, that is something to celebrate. I thought Namo was harshly treated and a good few players before him have been. In recent weeks I've now seen Nsemba not get a ban when I thought he would, Moylan not get one against us, two Catalans players not pick up bans from the Saints game and so on and hopefully it's a sign of some common sense starting to come in to play. The play acting on the field looks to be getting ignored now more often than not as well, so it's moving the right direction.
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| Quote ="WWste"Lucky escape and I’ll imagine a few Cas fans will be annoyed with that, rightly so after the ban last week.
We’ll need Nsemba against KR. Be a difficult game against them but Catalan showed big pack can dominate them and they couldn’t match their intensity'"
I disagree, as I said previously there was no foul play in that tackle so how Junior could be suspended was beyond me. I think the problem is that everyone presumes a suspension will follow when injuries occur after such incidents. The Castleford layer’s tackle was far worse.
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| FFS this is rugby league we shouldn’t have been debating whether Juniors tackle was worthy of a ban. Injuries happen, that is the nature of the game. If players are going to be sat down for such incidents then it is time to wrap it up.
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| Queue the conspiracy theories
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| They’re not happy on Red Vee. I couldn’t work out from one guys post if he was describing what happened in the Nsemba tackle or if he’d seen him at Alton Towers on the Smiler!
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"They’re not happy on Red Vee. I couldn’t work out from one guys post if he was describing what happened in the Nsemba tackle or if he’d seen him at Alton Towers on the Smiler!'"
Haha...Brian Nazareth! If brains were dynamite... Apparently Nsemba's tackle was the very definition of a hip drop despite him going down front first. He must have hips in his face
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"Haha...Brian Nazareth! If brains were dynamite... Apparently Nsemba's tackle was the very definition of a hip drop despite him going down front first. He must have hips in his face
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| It wasn't Big Brian actually, it was somebody else, whose username escapes me. Brian couldn't describe a tackle because he wouldn't get past the way in which he uses many expletives alongside the word 'Pie'.
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| Happy he's in the clear, think he's been quite lucky, him not landing on the attackers legs has probably saved him.
Hope the coaching staff have a little word with him to work at staying on his feet and getting closer in the tackle, I think they might have had a similar chat to KPP middle of last year, he was very grabby in tackles early on.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"It wasn't Big Brian actually, it was somebody else, whose username escapes me. Brian couldn't describe a tackle because he wouldn't get past the way in which he uses many expletives alongside the word 'Pie'.'"
Is he the same grown man (under a different username) who couldn't bring himself to type out "Wigan" and settled for "Wi*an" instead?
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