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| Quote ="hula89"Remember we've never actually "Broken" the cap we've gone against the "spirit of it".
We are just wondering how it would be possible for Wire to get Hodgson under the cap considering the big earners you already have. I mean think about this these are just my guesses:
Morley - Probably about 150k
King - 200-300k maybe (didn't he reject 200k from us to go to Wire?)
Andersons - 80-100k each easy
Carvell - 80-100k maybe more
Myler - Over 100k as he rejected a "six figure sum from Salford"
Thats not far from a million by itself. Add to this I know a lad who plays for Wire who tells me what he's on and what some of the other young players are on and I dont see how it will be possible even with the removal of Mathers to get Hodgson under the cap unless you get him on a bargain contract which is unlikely as the extension he's rejected will of been on his current deal which will be well in excess of 100k probably closer to 200k.'"
I think V Anderson, Solomona and Hicks are off at the end of the year along with Mathers.
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| Quote ="hula89"Remember we've never actually "Broken" the cap we've gone against the "spirit of it".
We are just wondering how it would be possible for Wire to get Hodgson under the cap considering the big earners you already have. I mean think about this these are just my guesses:
Morley - Probably about 150k
King - 200-300k maybe (didn't he reject 200k from us to go to Wire?)
Andersons - 80-100k each easy
Carvell - 80-100k maybe more
Myler - Over 100k as he rejected a "six figure sum from Salford"
Thats not far from a million by itself. Add to this I know a lad who plays for Wire who tells me what he's on and what some of the other young players are on and I dont see how it will be possible even with the removal of Mathers to get Hodgson under the cap unless you get him on a bargain contract which is unlikely as the extension he's rejected will of been on his current deal which will be well in excess of 100k probably closer to 200k.'"
Another person who knows everything
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| Quote ="Pemps"I think V Anderson, Solomona and Hicks are off at the end of the year along with Mathers.'"
Ah this may be their way I take it back. They're still a bit fishy though I think the amount they must be spending on wages must be damn close to the cap. I mean other than maybe Riley I can't see a player in their 13 that would be on less than 80-100k.
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| Quote ="Wire_85"Another person who knows everything
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Even though he clearly says "theses are my guesses". He didn't claim to know the wages at all, just guessing, so get off your high horse.
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| Quote ="inside_man"Even though he clearly says "theses are my guesses". He didn't claim to know the wages at all, just guessing, so get off your high horse.'"
Maybe am just fed up of people saying we are over the cap and theres no way we can be under it.
Every season after we sign someone its the same old story.
Its boring.
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| Quote ="Wire_85"Maybe am just fed up of people saying we are over the cap and theres no way we can be under it.
Every season after we sign someone its the same old story.
Its boring.'"
Then I'd suggest you stay off here for a while.
There's no way Wire are going to keep making big name signings, and Wigan fans not question it.
Especially when a new way to get around the cap has just been uncovered in Australia, and hints have been dropped that other clubs are doing the same thing.
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| Quote ="Wire_85"Maybe am just fed up of people saying we are over the cap and theres no way we can be under it.
Every season after we sign someone its the same old story.
Its boring.'"
And would you not question if this was the other way round?
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| Quote ="hula89"And would you not question if this was the other way round?'"
Leeds have a great squad with big name players never questioned it once.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"Then I'd suggest you stay off here for a while.
There's no way Wire are going to keep making big name signings, and Wigan fans not question it.
Especially when a new way to get around the cap has just been uncovered in Australia, and hints have been dropped that other clubs are doing the same thing.'"
Its all the boards and VT to be fair.
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| Quote ="inside_man"I imagine that's why there letting him go isn't it? Move him to fullback, Brough replaces him taking the conversions, bring in a new winger on a lot less money than Hodgson would have wanted.
Plus with the quota coming down I imagine it's seen as an even greater risk as you want your quota players to be playing as much as possible. At his age I can't see him getting at most 3/4's of a season in in 2 years time.'"
There is a rumour Owen is Hudds bound to cover the loss of Hodgson, would have hoped we would have been having a look at him to potentially replace Phelps.
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| Quote ="Wire_85"Leeds have a great squad with big name players never questioned it once.'"
And if they were supposedly looking at Hodgson then I'd probably be questioning that somewhere on here too! haha
I have questioned them to my mates in the past but always give up coz they're probably untouchable from the RFL anyway.
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| Quote ="Wire_85"Leeds have a great squad with big name players never questioned it once.'"
Leeds squad is built differently though. They have a lot of players they produced through their academy, whereas you've bought most of your top players and therefore would be expected to pay more.
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| Quote ="inside_man"Leeds squad is built differently though. They have a lot of players they produced through their academy, whereas you've bought most of your top players and therefore would be expected to pay more.'"
Doesn't matter does it?
Top players will want top money doesn't matter if they bought them or not.
Someone said it the other day one problem of the cap is its harder to hold onto good players that have come through the youth system because there isn't the money so they go elsewhere.
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| TBH im amazed,now we are starting to do well people start on the salary cap,if we are cheating we would be found out,SIMPLE. SO why not get back on to the title of the topic.
MOVE ON NOTHING TO SEE HERE.
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| Quote ="hula89"Remember we've never actually "Broken" the cap we've gone against the "spirit of it".'"
We broke it in 2005 as well and had 2 points knocked off when fighting relegation in 2006.
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| Quote ="karetaker"TBH im amazed,now we are starting to do well people start on the salary cap,if we are cheating we would be found out,SIMPLE. SO why not get back on to the title of the topic.
MOVE ON NOTHING TO SEE HERE.'"
yeah because melbourne were found out straightaway.....
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| Quote ="ABP'"Hang on, i thought Warrington supporters thought Mathers was the best thing since sliced bread?
Paying Warrington that money to take Mathers off our hands was fantastic business.
...Getting Gleeson was a bonus.'"
You've convinced me, some Wiganers are thick/ignorant.
By the time he left, Gleeson was a cancer at our club. Talented player but an absolute . Getting him out of the door for £100k and replacing him with a player like Mathers was the perfect solution for a club that desperately needed a fresh attitude. Wigan needed a strike player and had £100k to waste. Everybody won.
Mathers has his limitations as a player but he made a significant contribution to our season and winning our first trophy for 30 odd years. You might not like it but it's true. If Mathers gets shipped out to be replaced by Brett Hodgson I'll be sad to see him go but there's no shame in that.
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| Quote ="Ian 77 Redux"You've convinced me, some Wiganers are thick/ignorant.
By the time he left, Gleeson was a cancer at our club. Talented player but an absolute booty. Getting him out of the door for £100k and replacing him with a player like Mathers was the perfect solution for a club that desperately needed a fresh attitude. Wigan needed a strike player and had [u£100k to waste[/u. Everybody won.
Mathers has his limitations as a player but he made a significant contribution to our season and winning our first trophy for 30 odd years. You might not like it but it's true. If Mathers gets shipped out to be replaced by Brett Hodgson I'll be sad to see him go but there's no shame in that.'"
And the underlined is what convinces me that some Wire fans are thick/ignorant.
Works two ways.
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| Yes it does work both ways. On another thread on here someone has quoted Feka as being on £200,000. I've no doubt he isn't, but look at your overseas and federation trained players (all 9 of them), all of whom will be on good money, then Fielden, Gleeson etc, and you start to wonder how Wigan get under the Cap.
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| Quote ="Teessidewire"Yes it does work both ways. On another thread on here someone has quoted Feka as being on £200,000. I've no doubt he isn't, but look at your overseas and federation trained players (all 9 of them), all of whom will be on good money, then Fielden, Gleeson etc, and you start to wonder how Wigan get under the Cap.'"
Why have we got 9? I can only count 6.
Roberts, Riddell, Carmont, Bailey, Feka and Phelps.
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| Quote ="inside_man"Why have we got 9? I can only count 6.
Roberts, Riddell, Carmont, Bailey, Feka and Phelps.'"
Leuluai, Richards and he's probably counting Hansen
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| As for all of them being on good money. Bailey took a massive pay cut for his extention this year, and Carmont and Phelps will be on Peanuts.
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| Yes I am. Hansen has played international football. Please don't say that Richards is Irish.
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| Quote ="Teessidewire"Yes I am. Hansen has played international football. Please don't say that Richards is Irish.'"
Hansen came through our academy. He counts as home grown. & your the first person to bring up Richards being Irish in this thread
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| Quote ="Mother Feka"Hansen came through our academy. He counts as home grown. & your the first person to bring up Richards being Irish in this thread
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And Leuluai is Fed trained as well from being at Harlequins. I remembered Richard but didn't write his name for some reason.
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