Saints fans really have no cause to complain about the ref because 2 of their other tries came from passes that were a mile forward.

To be fair the majority of Saints fans accept that there was much more to blame than the referee.

Personally I didn't understand the coaches lightweight pack selection against one of the biggest teams in Rugby League. I hope we don't make the same mistake next Sunday.

We won't. No back or interchange hooker on the bench. We can just rotate the size. McIlorum will love next weeks game.

Thats true. Bosc on the wing is a big weakness for them, he is defensively awful and looks like a fish out of water playing there. I would be looking for us to use Goulding and Charnley, who have been such a threat so far, to attack him constantly.

I got almost as excited as I do watching Wigan. That was a superb last 20 mins. How on earth people can prefer football over this wonderful sport I have no idea!

I've been watching Man Utd a decent amount of times. Every single time I've gone I've been bored out my tree as I've grown up watching live RL. Football isn't a patch on RL. I think the majority of football fans only follow it because of it's simplicity and the ease of understanding. RL isn't complicated but there are a lot more rules. Plus a lot of people are too soft to play it.

Simmons didn't seem to want to blame anything but the ref, in his interview with the Wigfinder General after the game: "I'll be talking to Stuart on monday..."

I watched the try a few times. Just listen to the sound of the crowd as the ball is placed over the line. There are a few cheers, but you can hear a resounding "oooh", as the Saints fans realise what's happened.

Simmons sounded very poor when saying he would be "talking to Stuart" on Monday. His team has let in 12 tries in the past two matches and he's blaming the refs and Stuart Cummings?
Saints fans seems far more aware than the Saints coach as to their current failings.
They have Huddersfield away next so that should be a good one to tighten the defence.

Brian,

anyone who is blaming the referee is an idiot. For what its worth he did make a few mistakes you can point at but doesnt that happen every week ? For me blaming the ref is for losers.

I have been to all our games this season and our defence especially on the goal line has simply been poor and it needs to be addressed. Last week at Craven Park we scored 36 points and were lucky to come away with a last gasp point. If you score that many points away from home you should expect to win, again Friday 34 points and lost that tells you all you need to know.

Whilst as a Saints fan Friday's result losing at the death was disappointing the fact that we blew a 26-8 lead is the real worry.

As for the manner of the final try and indeed Catalans fightback in a peverse kind of way it restored some faith in this game of ours that we like to call the greatest. I think the game has in many instances become robotic and boring with 5 drives or scoots and a kick. Wasn't it refreshing to see a team throw the ball about and play some great open rugby. The final pasage was the most exciting thing I have seen for years even though we lost. You still left the stadium thinking you had had more than your monies worth.

Im not too despondant its early days and we have seen a lot of rotation. I think once Royce decides on his best 17 we will improve.

Don't write us off yet !!

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He went back that far I am sure some of the footage was from Knowsley Road

Fair play Div. You're right the game was a winner. We love the fact that you got beat in the dying seconds, as you also would if it happened to us.

Simmons, perhaps trying to deflect some of the spotlight off your defensive worries?

He cannot possibly shy away from it. The team has shown not ability or desire to defend the goal line as yet. We have conceeded a worrying amount of points. Its not like we have p[layed the competitions best team ( although I do think Catalans will go well) . I dont see Salford, London or HKR as top 4 contenders.

He needs to quit his experimental tinkering now and get what he thinks is his best 17 on the park and work hard.

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Paul,
I haven't wrote you off at all. There was a big part of me that wanted that last conversion to miss (I think you know why

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Saints completion rate of 97% (35 from 36 sets) was amazing. I've never known a team to lose a game with those sort of stats.

But what a game for=#FF0000 any sporting fan to behold, pure theatre.
It'll be very interesting to see how we manage that big Catalan pack on Sunday, because if they get on top there are players in the middle and on the edges that can do untold damage, as we found out only too well last year.

I'd like to know why ?

I wanted Wigan to be the first away team to win there.

I'm not biased.

I'm not bothered who beats St Helens.

People will remember the first derby win anyway.

Last derby at Knowsley Road, first derby at Langtree Park. That would rub it in nicely.

Check the sig.

With all the video ref checks they asked for I m surprised they didnt check the players driving licences, maybe thats gonna be Gansons, peak, "just check the grounding and Sam Tomkins passport"

Like it.

That would have been good

.....never mind eh , you might have to settle for being the third the way we are defending.