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| Quote ="hula89"its not actually as dangerous as they make out and no more dangerous than most tackles you see week in week out.'"
I haven't played RL since copping a "tackle" identical to Lima's on Clarkson the other week. It's completely unnecessary, even more so when it's after the hooter (slthough I haven't seen the one from the weekend so I've no idea if it was bad or not).
If you want to complete the tackle - fine. But don't do it by running in and shoulder charging around the knee area of a player who is held up by other tacklers and can't see you. Grab the leg instead, it's very easy and nobody gets injured.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"I haven't played RL since copping a "tackle" identical to Lima's on Clarkson the other week. It's completely unnecessary, even more so when it's after the hooter!
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Why even more so when its after the hooter?
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| Looks like it's just Bailey and Brown in the bad lads parking spaces tomorrow.
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"Looks like it's just Bailey and Brown in the bad lads parking spaces tomorrow.'"
Caution.
Might as well save his petrol money.
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"Looks like it's just Bailey and Brown in the bad lads parking spaces tomorrow.'"
Well if that true how on earth did Keef Senior get away with running in and punching?
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"Looks like it's just Bailey and Brown in the bad lads parking spaces tomorrow.'"
The only reason O'Donnell isn't there is because he didn't get a punch off. You can see the fight on the SL website and it's ages before he appears. He must have run 30 yards to get involved but still didn't hit anyone.
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| Quote ="Lippy"Well if that true how on earth did Keef Senior get away with running in and punching?'"
<Conspiracy theory>He wasn't wearing a Wigan shirt.</Conspiracy theory>
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| Quote ="Lippy"Well if that true how on earth did Keef Senior get away with running in and punching?'"
You mean for the same thing Sam got a one match ban for?
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| Quote ="Coventry Warrior!"You mean for the same thing Sam got a one match ban for?'"
That's the one, push the team names and the year into a well know video sharing site and it will show the SLTV highlights (with no buffering) Skip to 2min 15.
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| Quote ="Lippy"That's the one, push the team names and the year into a well know video sharing site and it will show the SLTV highlights (with no buffering) Skip to 2min 15.'"
Just watched it then. What Senior did was exactly the same as Sam, but Sam didnt throw any punches when he ran over. I think the reason Senior isnt up against the disciplinary is because the referee lost complete control and it was 13v13 so it's difficult to pick out just a few people. Whereas with Sam, he was the only one to run over to stop Joel and Yeaman.
Rubbish I know, as its the same situation. It does make you think if the RFL do really watch every game in detail and analyses each incident, because IMO they clearly dont.
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| Quote ="Pemps"The only reason O'Donnell isn't there is because he didn't get a punch off. You can see the fight on the SL website and it's ages before he appears. He must have run 30 yards to get involved but still didn't hit anyone.'"
The only reason I can think Brown is there, is because he didn't hit Bailey hard enough.
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"The only reason I can think Brown is there, is because he didn't hit Bailey hard enough.'"
I'm baffled by Brown's call up.
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| Never mind that it looks like big jeff may be available for the saints game
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| Quote ="Pemps"I'm baffled by Brown's call up.'"
He was playing against Leeds.
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| The RFL are not helping themselves:
Mellars & Bridge - players run into melee, nothing happens but they get sin binned. Up at the disciplinary.
Bailey & Morley - head butt. "Player held in tackle, attempting to release grip of opponent, no intentional contact with head". How does a player release another's grip with the head?
Dorn - tackle that ends up around the head, decision... Unknown?
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| Quote ="Tricky Dicky"Never mind that it looks like big jeff may be available for the saints game'"
No may be about it,
Quote Decision No charge
Details of Charge / Reason for NF NFA. Footage unclear as to point of contact or whether contact puts opponent’s knee joint at unnecessary risk of injury or outside normal range of motion '"
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| Quote ="Lippy"Well if that true how on earth did Keef Senior get away with running in and punching?'"
Ah silly me, I must have mistaken his arms waving for trying to split up the fight, sorry melee. Not for throwing punches.
Quote Decision No charge
Details of Charge / Reason for NF NFA. Player runs into melee, does not throw punches, attempts to separate players, no striking or punching '"
As I said before, watch the highlights on YT, 2 min 15sec in. If he wasn't throwing punches then why does he get dragged off or away?
Must go to spec savers!
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| Quote ="Pemps"I'm baffled by Brown's call up.'"
I'm not.
1. It was against Leeds.
2. He used to play for Wigan.
Death Penalty at least.
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| Quote ="goobervision"The RFL are not helping themselves:
=#FF0000Mellars & Bridge - players run into melee, nothing happens but they get sin binned. Up at the disciplinary.
Bailey & Morley - head butt. "Player held in tackle, attempting to release grip of opponent, no intentional contact with head". How does a player release another's grip with the head?
Dorn - tackle that ends up around the head, decision... Unknown?'"
Just shows the patheticness that is the rugby league disciplinary panel! The sooner our game is run by a proper administrative panel the better - is it any wonder that the game lacks national credibility despite being the greatest game in the world when it has been perenially run by muppets!!
As for Mellars and Bridge, they should get bans if there is any consistancy, even if they have not thrown punches, as running in was all sam did, to try and pull players off his brother, yet he still got a ban and hung by the Rugby League Kangaroo court and Richard Agar's lies about throwing punches, despite video evidence to the contrary.
IMO running in shouldnt carry a ban, it should be what the player does when he runs in that determines the issue. A player running in to protect his own players and to try and pull players away should be applauded, yet they are treated in the same way as a player running in all fists flying!!
Watch the Wigan V Dull 2011 again on that video sharing site as stated by one of the last posters - what radford was doing was far worse than sam, who only came in to stop radford reigning blows on joel while he was held and hit by other hull players - yet 1 match ban for sam, radford gets off for good behaviour
EDIT: Watch Bailey and Morley get off in typical RFL fashion.
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| Quote ="gerr'emonside"Just shows the patheticness that is the rugby league disciplinary panel! The sooner our game is run by a proper administrative panel the better - is it any wonder that the game lacks national credibility despite being the greatest game in the world when it has been perenially run by muppets!!
As for Mellars and Bridge, they should get bans if there is any consistancy, even if they have not thrown punches, as running in was all sam did, to try and pull players off his brother, yet he still got a ban and hung by the Rugby League Kangaroo court and Richard Agar's lies about throwing punches, despite video evidence to the contrary.
IMO running in shouldnt carry a ban, it should be what the player does when he runs in that determines the issue. A player running in to protect his own players and to try and pull players away should be applauded, yet they are treated in the same way as a player running in all fists flying!!
EDIT: Watch Bailey and Morley get off in typical RFL fashion.'"
Sam pleaded guilty to running in AND punching. If people want to make up conspiracy theories at least have it based on something approaching reality.
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"Sam pleaded guilty to running in AND punching. If people want to make up conspiracy theories at least have it based on something approaching reality.'"
Well if he did then thats our fault - where on that video does he ever throw a punch?!!!
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| Quote ="gerr'emonside"Well if he did then thats our fault - where on that video does he ever throw a punch?!!!'"
Maybe he pleaded guilty because he actually did it? A bit left-field for some I know, but there you go.
Quote Shaun Joyce speaking on behalf of the player. The player involved in the incident was Sam's brother. The player does accept that he has run some considerable distance to the incident and while originally going into stop the incident developing he concedes he has thrown a punch.'"
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| Quote ="gerr'emonside"Well if he did then thats our fault - where on that video does he ever throw a punch?!!!'"
The fight that Sam runs in punching isn't on YouTube. The only fight on there is the one after the penalty for the initial fight.
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| Quote ="Pemps"The fight that Sam runs in punching isn't on YouTube. The only fight on there is the one after the penalty for the initial fight.'"
Ah! apologies! Thought they were alleging it was that one. didnt notice him running in or throwing punches in the first fight at the game but if thats what its for furrymuff.
Cheers for clearing it up. Been wondering about that for weeks!
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