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| not bullying all players are on the pitch and all play rugby just because there small doesn't mean players are a bully if they get a big hit and you see myler/burrow/tomkin all take it and get back up with ease as it doesn't effect them
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| Quote ="Bill_Barlow"I applaud Joel for the cheap shots as daft as it sounds, Morley Westwood and Solomona are 3 players who have always been cheap shot merchants or bullys against us in the past and at least he offered some back. Every team has at least 1 who stretches the rules.'"
What a terrible Quote!
If every player had that attitude we wouldn't have a game!
Joel don't need to stoop that low, he smashed leeds early this year with huge hits and IMO them big hits early on won wigan the game.
Just hope he don't get himself a bad rep that ruins his game.
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| Quote ="DP_wwrlfc"You wish you had a second rower even close to the quality of that lad.'"
I know, instead we have one far better in Ben Westwood.
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| Quote ="Mark"I know, instead we have one far better in Ben Westwood.'"
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| my dad is bigger than your dad
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| Probably is, my dads shrinking
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| Quote ="Pieman"dream on'"
Didn't watch the game last night then? I await a sensible fans response, somebody like Rogues or NickyKiss.
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| Quote ="St pete"What a terrible Quote!
If every player had that attitude we wouldn't have a game!
Joel don't need to stoop that low, he smashed leeds early this year with huge hits and IMO them big hits early on won wigan the game.
Just hope he don't get himself a bad rep that ruins his game.'"
Thats why i put as daft as it sounds, im not applauding dirty tactics but when the Wire lot were handing it out at he gave some back, i think if he hadnt of stood up the wire pack would of dominated and bullied Wigan into surrender. Wigan are crying out for some real size and aggression.
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| Quote ="Bill_Barlow" the wire pack would of dominated and bullied Wigan into surrender. .'"
They did. I kinda get what you mean r.e Tomkins, better to do it with big hits though rather than cheap shots.
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| Quote ="Mark"Didn't watch the game last night then? I await a sensible fans response, somebody like Rogues or NickyKiss.'"
Didnt watch it, I attended it. you think Westwood is better than Tomkins then you need your head examined
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| Quote ="DP_wwrlfc"You wish you had a second rower even close to the quality of that lad.'" are you having a laugh both wire second rows were outstanding last night westwood was amazing and loui anderson is still young and puts on some massive hits ans played brilliant all u wigan fans are stuck up and need to get a grip.
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| Quote ="Pieman"Didnt watch it, I attended it. you think Westwood is better than Tomkins then you need your head examined'"
are you serious westwood is miles better than tomkins you need your head testin
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| Quote ="Bill_Barlow"Thats why i put as daft as it sounds, im not applauding dirty tactics but when the Wire lot were handing it out at he gave some back, i think if he hadnt of stood up the wire pack would of dominated and bullied Wigan into surrender. Wigan are crying out for some real size and aggression.'"
Sorry mate, i don't agree with any of your comments, if you want thug rugby then keep on telling joel just how much of a better player throwing cheap shots makes hi, also bring newton back.
One thing for sure, i don't think your coach would have been happy giving cheap pens away throwing cheap shots.
Fans of great clubs like saints and wigan should be calling for great rugby, not thugby.
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| Quote ="Mark"They did. I kinda get what you mean r.e Tomkins, better to do it with big hits though rather than cheap shots.'"
He did plenty of big hits on Morley Carvell Wood Atkins Westwood, pretty much all your pack its just a few hits on smaller players are being highlighted more by some on here. The Myler 1 was 50/50, he hadnt grounded the ball for what seemed an eternity and IMO he has every right to put a hit in.
Look at the Anderson hit on Tommy for a cheap shot and look at the kickers being taken out. If id of been on the Wigan coaching staff when Briers was kicking us to death would of encouraged them to follow Wires lead. Has been a part of the game aslong as its been around and always will be.
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| Quote ="St pete"Sorry mate, i don't agree with any of your comments, if you want thug rugby then keep on telling joel just how much of a better player throwing cheap shots makes hi, also bring newton back.
One thing for sure, i don't think your coach would have been happy giving cheap pens away throwing cheap shots.
Fans of great clubs like saints and wigan should be calling for great rugby, not thugby.'"
Where did he give penalties away for cheap shots? As for Saints and thugby lets not go into Cunningham, Fozzard, Graham, Pryce incidents both this year and in the past.
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| Quote ="Bill_Barlow"Where did he give penalties away for cheap shots? As for Saints and thugby lets not go into Cunningham, Fozzard, Graham, Pryce incidents both this year and in the past.'"
What as KC, graham, pryce and fozzard got to do with tomkins in last nights game?
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| Quote ="St pete"What as KC, graham, pryce and fozzard got to do with tomkins in last nights game?
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You brought Saints into it im just saying dont come giving Joel grief and then make out Saints are whiter than white.
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| Quote ="St pete"What as KC, graham, pryce and fozzard got to do with tomkins in last nights game?
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Nothing, he's just really struggling to justify himself now.
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| Quote ="Bill_Barlow"You brought Saints into it im just saying dont come giving Joel grief and then make out Saints are whiter than white.'"
Listen ken, I have praised joel on here, just read my Quotes, you will see i have called him the best 2nd row in super league(english) and i honestly think he will be the best out of tomkins brothers.
I said i hope he don't turn into a player known for cheap shots.
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| Quote ="Teessidewire"Nothing, he's just really struggling to justify himself now.'"
Justify what? Im happy to stick to my opinion that i applaud how Joel played last night rather than criticise him like some are. Wigan were on the recieving end of some cheap/high shots and he never took a backwards step and gave plenty back when the ref was happy to let many things go.
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| Quote ="Bill_Barlow"Justify what? Im happy to stick to my opinion that i applaud how Joel played last night rather than criticise him like some are. Wigan were on the recieving end of some cheap/high shots and he never took a backwards step and gave plenty back when the ref was happy to let many things go.'"
If you think warrington used bully boy tactics last night then you never played the game, both teams was playing the game hard.
You lost the game because lee briers was to clever.
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| Quote ="Bill_Barlow"He did plenty of big hits on Morley Carvell Wood Atkins Westwood, pretty much all your pack its just a few hits on smaller players are being highlighted more by some on here. The Myler 1 was 50/50, he hadnt grounded the ball for what seemed an eternity and IMO he has every right to put a hit in.
Look at the Anderson hit on Tommy for a cheap shot and look at the kickers being taken out. If id of been on the Wigan coaching staff when Briers was kicking us to death would of encouraged them to follow Wires lead. Has been a part of the game aslong as its been around and always will be.'"
We'd have seen a man in the bin if we'd have done the same to them.
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| Quote ="St pete"If you think warrington used bully boy tactics last night then you never played the game, both teams was playing the game hard.
You lost the game because lee briers was to clever.'"
Briers was only given the chance to be clever due to the dominant pack he was behind, look at the kicks Briers puts in and look how much time he has to put them in. Look at Sam and Tommys kicks in the opening 20, big men taking them off there feet just after they had kicked it lots of pressure and a bump. Maybe just an example of Wire being coached and recieving instructions better?
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| Quote ="Bill_Barlow"Briers was only given the chance to be clever due to the dominant pack he was behind, look at the kicks Briers puts in and look how much time he has to put them in. Look at Sam and Tommys kicks in the opening 20, big men taking them off there feet just after they had kicked it lots of pressure and a bump. Maybe just an example of Wire being coached and recieving instructions better?'"
I don't agree with your comment of promoting cheap shots but i will agree that warrington are well coached and have best coach in super league.
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| Quote ="Bill_Barlow"He did plenty of big hits on Morley Carvell Wood Atkins Westwood, pretty much all your pack its just a few hits on smaller players are being highlighted more by some on here. The Myler 1 was 50/50, he hadnt grounded the ball for what seemed an eternity and IMO he has every right to put a hit in.
Look at the Anderson hit on Tommy for a cheap shot and look at the kickers being taken out. If id of been on the Wigan coaching staff when Briers was kicking us to death would of encouraged them to follow Wires lead. Has been a part of the game aslong as its been around and always will be.'" The hit on Myler was 50 50 are you mad, you are talking crap, just a total one eyed biased view of the game, Warrington were all late and wigans was fine.
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