Posted a few minutes ago: Quote ="Damo-Leeds"We are no longer in the 20th century when Wigan dominated rugby League. In fact it’s the century of the Rhinos and next week we’ll show the rest of the league why. We’ll get Hull KR again and beat them. But most of all we’ll get our first of two wins against Wigan next week because we need them more than what will be a low finishing Hull KR side.'" viewtopic.php?f=17&t=449455

Posted a few minutes ago: Quote ="Damo-Leeds"We are no longer in the 20th century when Wigan dominated rugby League. In fact it’s the century of the Rhinos and next week we’ll show the rest of the league why. We’ll get Hull KR again and beat them. But most of all we’ll get our first of two wins against Wigan next week because we need them more than what will be a low finishing Hull KR side.'" viewtopic.php?f=17&t=449455

Definitely, its been a good year so far - both from a Wigan perspective and for the league as a whole I think. There's been some good crowds tonight - Crusaders getting up above 6k again is great.

Only Salford and Quins are letting the side down both on and off the field. Hopefully things will transform for Salford with the new stadium in a year or two. I don't think anyone has the answer as far as Quins are concerned. Is there a case for them to be the team that Widnes replace in 2012?

Quins are a huge worry aren't they.

To me the whole Quins brand thing just doesn't seem to be working. They were miles better off when they were the Bronco's. Maybe it was because it tempted alot more London based Australians down to watch them. Also as much as it's great seeing them giving English players a chance they don't seem to have any decent overseas players anymore.

A couple of NRL star names to play alongside guys like LMS, Clubb, Sharp etc wouldn't go amiss imo.

Quote ="MattyB"Posted a few minutes ago: viewtopic.php?f=17&t=449455 '" [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXgadS_1Z9kToo many knocks to the head...[/url

Quote ="MattyB"Posted a few minutes ago: viewtopic.php?f=17&t=449455 '" [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXgadS_1Z9kToo many knocks to the head...[/url

Just read they were also missing Buderus, Bailey and Bush tonight( sounds like a firm of solicitors) and again i'm not sure if they'll be back.

If they want to bring any of them back though i'll settle for Bailey or Bush. I've never seen one of them play and Bailey would do a good job.........for us

Let's get our game v Cas out of the way and then worry about Leeds.
The results have gone well for us tonight.

I believe Peacock went of just before halftime injured and then didn't return in the second, so there's a chance he may be missing as well next week.

yes an upset at Knowsley Road

I hate Gardner more than anybody but his second try took some finishing.

Quite a few of you were upset

Quote ="MattyB"Posted a few minutes ago: viewtopic.php?f=17&t=449455 '" Your mate Damo got it spot on pre-season, Quote ="Damo-Leeds"This year we’ll be a force not to be reckoned with!'"

Quote ="MattyB"Posted a few minutes ago: viewtopic.php?f=17&t=449455 '" Your mate Damo got it spot on pre-season, Quote ="Damo-Leeds"This year we’ll be a force not to be reckoned with!'"

On the Warrington board Mathers has his own thread. What did they say when the Gleeson deal was done they got the better part of the deal in getting Mathers some dont think so now. viewtopic.php?f=21&t=449493

On the Warrington board Mathers has his own thread. What did they say when the Gleeson deal was done they got the better part of the deal in getting Mathers some dont think so now. viewtopic.php?f=21&t=449493

Still cant believe this match wasnt on sky! Watched the re-run of the Catalan/Crusaders game last night when I got in from work, and my god what a boring game especially in comparison to the other two games last night in Leeds/KR and Saints/Dire.

bet it was good game 4 tries each. just kicking the difference. will watch it on boots and all the tries

Quote ="Andy Greg"On the Warrington board Mathers has his own thread. What did they say when the Gleeson deal was done they got the better part of the deal in getting Mathers some dont think so now. viewtopic.php?f=21&t=449493'" There are also a few of them in denial - probably because they don't want to face the reality that signing him from Wigan was a not a snappy piece of business, but a mistake.

Quote ="Andy Greg"On the Warrington board Mathers has his own thread. What did they say when the Gleeson deal was done they got the better part of the deal in getting Mathers some dont think so now. viewtopic.php?f=21&t=449493'" There are also a few of them in denial - probably because they don't want to face the reality that signing him from Wigan was a not a snappy piece of business, but a mistake.

He beat Mathers one on one to get it down in the corner.

Read into that what you will

Proaly not helped by the fact that the other half of that deal, Martin Gleeson, is playing out of his skin for Wigan!

I didn't think Gleeson was too bad last season, but this season he's looked like the real deal.

Given that Mathers wouldn't have got anywhere near our first team this year, it was a belting piece of business from our perspective.

Getting him out of Wigan colours was a belting piece of business. He was and remains a liability when on a rugby pitch.

We seem to be getting quite good at that again

Cant wait to see who MM brings in when the time comes, he must have a few ideas up his sleeve.

It really is narrow minded just to simply state that because Gleeson is undoubtedly a better individual player than Mathers, then it must mean that Wigan got the 'best' of any deal??

In the age of the salary cap, it is nigh on impossible to put together a squad that contains no supposed weak link....Yes, Gleeson is better than Mathers, but he was probably taking a damn sight more out of our budget than Mathers ever will....Without Gleeson's departure, could we have brought in Atkins, Solomona, Myler and kept under the cap??....I doubt it.

Its no secret, that since his arrival at Wigan, it has been painfully obvious that Stuart Fielden is grossly overpaid and is taking a huge chunk out of your cap that, if he left, could be used to better effect...But that is Rugby League in a salary cap era. You have to wheel and deal, get the best value you can from ALL your players.

I have little doubt that under the old system, Mathers would be shipped out, and with a bit of a help from our wealthy owner, a supposed World-class replacement would be brought in, on a huge salary and things would be peachy.

Luckily, that doesn't happen anymore, otherwise we'd have the tedious situation where one team dominates the sport, whilst spiralling into a debt which eventually cripples them, and forces them to sell the family jewels...

Nice attempt to change the subject.

But this thread is about Richie Mathers, and how relieved we all are that he's now counting against Warrington's salary cap rather than Wigan's.

No offence is intended to the lad - he seems like a nice guy off the field. I don't know what happened to him in Australia, but from the moment he arrived at Wigan it became apparent to us that he was not a SL standard player, and apparent to the rest of the world within a few matches.

That we managed to get anyone to take him off our books, let alone take him as part of a major transfer in which we secured the services of one of the best British centres in the game, is quite remarkable.

Spin it any way you want, but [uthat[/u was a good piece of business.

But it was good business from BOTH sides....Yes, you got a good centre, but we freed up a huge chunk from our salary cap, gaining 100k into the bargain, when in 6 months time we would have got nothing as Gleeson was looking for a way out and had been for ages, and most bizarrely we went on to win a long overdue trophy, which in all Gleeson's time at the club, we never ever looked like doing.

I agree that Mathers isn't anything fantastic, but with Gleeson the whole side wasn't anything fantastic.....As I said before, you have to cut your cloth accordingly with the salary cap rules, and because of this you have to have the Mathers' of this world in your squad...Similarly, to how in recent times, Wigan have had some right rubbish in their ranks....Yes, you may consider Mathers to be a prime example, but at least he wasn't stealing a huge amount of cash from you, like Fielden has done.

i went to the game as a neutral with a mate whoose a saints fan.

few things to comment on:-

-silverwoods performance, he was shocking and seemed to penalise at least once a set
- saints didnt play well, too many errors on their part, but their defence looked tight, warrington couldnt take teritorial advantage.
- richie mathers produced one of the greatest 'bluddy hell mathers' moment ever, he basically tried to catch a eastmond high ball sat down and made a right hash of it.

Fielden is certainly earning his bacon this season, hes been class imo.