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| Quote ="Ruddy Duck"Toronto Wolfpack have only been voted out of Super League Europe by a democratic vote of the majority of the eleven other clubs.
There is nothing as I see it to prevent them applying to the Rugby Football League for admission to the Championship and Division One.
It was obvious from their results prior to the lockdown in March that their squad was not up to the standard required in the Super League and that may be why the the majority of clubs including Wigan voted them out.'"
They were voted out because they have no money and would potentially be a financial liability on an already struggling sport.
They can apply back to L1 but given the above probably wouldn't get the green light there either.
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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"They were voted out because they have no money and would potentially be a financial liability on an already struggling sport.
They can apply back to L1 but given the above probably wouldn't get the green light there either.[/quot
Exactly, they had no money and were £1 million in debt and the new owner who despite paying off the debt, has now stated that if they were readmitted, they would have a further estimated debt of £3 million over the next three years.
If they cannot run on a profitable basis in Super League, what chance have they and indeed Ottawa got in Division One where many of the clubs are hardly bigger than many of the clubs in the National Conference.
How the RFL, Leeds and St Helens can vote in favour of them being readmitted to Super League is beyond rational thinking, especially with the world wide situation of the pandemic.
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| Quote ="Ruddy Duck"
Ottowa have pulled out for next season
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| Quote ="Ruddy Duck"Perhaps you can explain why?'"
Happily. Ahem. They didn’t win the promotion game.
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| Quote ="100% Warrior"Happily. Ahem. They didn’t win the promotion game.'"
But they were still the 100% runners up!.
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| Quote ="Ruddy Duck"But they were still the 100% runners up!.'"
They still didn’t win.
Ergo they don’t deserve any preference. When Melbourne were ‘de throned’ as NRL champions the runners up weren’t given the title.
You have to win it to be in it. They didn’t win. They’re not in it. And the sad sorry day Featherstone are brought into SL over Toronto will be yet another nail in RL’s coffin in the UK.
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| I hope it's Toulouse that gives 2 nice destinations for away games
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| SL are only going to decide in December and give reduced funding to whoever comes up.
What is the point? Self interested clubs once again. And we have the audacity to sit and call football clubs greedy
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| Serious discussions around Bradford being the 12th team. I honestly despair at this shambles sometimes. You just cannot make this up.
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| Quote ="100% Warrior"Serious discussions around Bradford being the 12th team. I honestly despair at this shambles sometimes. You just cannot make this up.'"
Utter madness if they get in..other than big Nige Wood having a stake in the club what reason..oh wait im kind of answering my own question there.
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| Quote ="hengirl"Utter madness if they get in..other than big Nige Wood having a stake in the club what reason..oh wait im kind of answering my own question there.'"
Bradford would be the biggest draw of all the names listed, but their off field issues of late must be a huge red flag. The last thing we need as a sport is another club in trouble which given reduced funding and no signs of any income may well happen.
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| I'd like to see either York or my preference Toulouse as two French teams would make for a stronger French national side
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| Quote ="warrior1872"would make for a stronger French national side'"
That's what they said about Catalans
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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"That's what they said about Catalans'"
And there are numerous French players in their squad so what's your point,when they first came into being they loaded the squad with loads of overseas players but more and more French players are coming into the first team squad
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| Quote ="warrior1872"And there are numerous French players in their squad so what's your point,when they first came into being they loaded the squad with loads of overseas players but more and more French players are coming into the first team squad'"
The national side is still crap
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| Quote ="warrior1872"And there are numerous French players in their squad so what's your point,when they first came into being they loaded the squad with loads of overseas players but more and more French players are coming into the first team squad'"
they had 21 out of 31 players in the squad that were french when they entered super league compared to 17 out of 30 now, so your point is pretty flawed.....
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| London are the only side who deserve a place on merit - they were the ones who were relegated to make way for Toronto.
Anyone else would be stealing a place.
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| For purely selfish reasons I’d love to see London get back in. It’s the only team I can go and watch and get back home in the same day. Never missed the London away game.
They need to sort themselves a ground first though.
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| Quote ="muttywhitedog"London are the only side who deserve a place on merit - they were the ones who were relegated to make way for Toronto.
Anyone else would be stealing a place.'"
how is that merit?
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| Quote ="Pieman"how is that merit?'"
Because they beat Toronto to claim a place in Superleague the season before.
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| Quote ="muttywhitedog"Because they beat Toronto to claim a place in Superleague the season before.'"
And actually competed fairly well in SL. Any other year they would have stayed up with that amount of points. If you're looking for a team to be SL ready in such a short period, they're the best bet IMO. Not sure how much the squad has turned over but I think a lot of it was down to Danny Ward, who is still there of course. Whoever does come up should be exempt from relegation for a year though IMO due to the short time available to them to prepare a competitive squad.
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| Quote ="muttywhitedog"Because they beat Toronto to claim a place in Superleague the season before.'"
so 2 years ago? Hows that merit for this season?
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| Quote ="Grimmy"And actually competed fairly well in SL. Any other year they would have stayed up with that amount of points. If you're looking for a team to be SL ready in such a short period, they're the best bet IMO. Not sure how much the squad has turned over but I think a lot of it was down to Danny Ward, who is still there of course. Whoever does come up should be exempt from relegation for a year though IMO due to the short time available to them to prepare a competitive squad.'"
I disagree, If you look at squads its a shootout between Leigh and Toulouse and they also have the facilities ready also, Londons squad has been decimated
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| Quote ="Pieman"I disagree'"
I know. I knew that as soon as I saw 'Pieman wrote'.
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| Quote ="Grimmy"I know. I knew that as soon as I saw 'Pieman wrote'.'"
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