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| Quote ="shooter69"have you heard your selfs noble picks a team he thinks can win blah blah blah was nt that couple of weeks ago when 99% wanted his head on a stick was nt that when you was all crying ainscough s name on the team sheet an for the idiot who said ainscough might make a mistake an cost us 2 points there s plenty other s in the team who can the that for us , lets see what happens if we lose some more what will it be noble sacked ainscough in ,'"
No!
SOME PEOPLE WANTED HIS HEAD ON A STICK!
Not all of us!
And TBH it doesnt matter if someone did or didn't.
It still stands, Noble should pick the team he thinks will win that game. He will live & Die by that decision.
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| Quote ="shooter69"have you heard your selfs noble picks a team he thinks can win blah blah blah was nt that couple of weeks ago when 99% wanted his head on a stick was nt that when you was all crying ainscough s name on the team sheet an for the idiot who said ainscough might make a mistake an cost us 2 points there s plenty other s in the team who can the that for us , lets see what happens if we lose some more what will it be noble sacked ainscough in ,'"
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"There is another issue, I was speaking to a family member of a Wigan reserve player, and supposedly if a player plays x amount of games in the 1st team their contract has to be reviewed. Could this also be a factor?'"
Looking at the rule I'm pretty sure Ainscough's "salary cap value" as determined by the RFL will already have taken this into account using a defined formula.
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| Not bothered about him missing the game , just hope noble doesnt keep publicly criticisng him - Ainscough is the only player singled out for criticsm in nobs 3 years here - Fielden has never been dropped but is constantly sh*t. Ainscough has a long bright future ahead of him , unlike noble who will probably go if we lose on saturday.
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| Quote ="Broxy Music"Not bothered about him missing the game , just hope noble doesnt keep publicly criticisng him - Ainscough is the only player singled out for criticsm in nobs 3 years here - Fielden has never been dropped but is constantly sh*t. Ainscough has a long bright future ahead of him , unlike noble who will probably go if we lose on saturday.'"
Your wrong, Fielden got dropped once but refused to play for the reserves so Eamon was sacrificed IIRC.
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| Quote ="Bill_Barlow"Your wrong, Fielden got dropped once but refused to play for the reserves so Eamon was sacrificed IIRC.'"
If that's true that is shocking.
Also I'm told there's no truth re the SC and leaving Ainy out is completely tactical.
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| Quote ="Bill_Barlow"Your wrong, Fielden got dropped once but refused to play for the reserves so Eamon was sacrificed IIRC.'"
When was this?? If so noble should of told him where to go..
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| Quote ="PaulM"If that's true that is shocking.
Also I'm told there's no truth re the SC and leaving Ainy out is completely tactical.'"
well i was speaking someone at murryfield who was told by ainscough's dad that if he plays more than 10 games his money goes up
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| Quote ="Broxy Music"When was this?? If so noble should of told him where to go..'"
It was yonks ago, i think if not early last year then late the year before.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"I personally have sympathy for Noble in respect of making these decisions, it can't be easy.
He's now got tough calls all over the place. I can see his reasoning in leaving out Ainscough from the 6 outside backs but I could equally see the logic in leaving out Amos Roberts.
Mcilorum was great at the weekend, possibly his best game ever for the club. But I am also of the opinion (and I realise I may be in the minority) that Riddell has been pretty decent in the last couple of months and does the side really want to be without his experience in the pressure of a cup game? That would be a 50/50 call for me as well.
Harrison Hansen and eventually Eamonn O'Carroll will also eventually provide further competition for first team places and this is just amongst the established first teamers, some more kids in the academy I'm sure will also start to make claims as well.
It is pleasing in the sense that this is Wigan and players should have to fight tooth and nail to get their place. This hasn't been the case whatsoever in recent years.'"
you'll never please all the fans all the time.we have an opinion, and the fans will all have different ideas of whats right and wrong. makes for a good sport and good debate.
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| As much as I was pee'd of with BN for dropping SA last week I could see his reasons behind it. My big problem this week would be if he dropped Michael McIlorum for Riddell. MM took on the best 2 hookers in the league last week and was head and shoulders above both of them, the rotation with him and TL, TS and ST is working brilliantly so why change that formation just to bring in a bloke who has yet to REALLY impress this season?
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| Quote ="YICKER"well i was speaking someone at murryfield who was told by ainscough's dad that if he plays more than 10 games his money goes up'"
Well A he deserves it B Wigan should of known it when they signed Gleeson and C we shouldnt be prevented from playing young british players. If it is the reason it is a disgrace
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| I think its really unfair on SA and shows that BN didnt have much faith in his ability to break the first team and have such an impact but as good as many knew he was not many expected him to tear it up so much, BN also said S.Tomkins would only get 10 games this season i wonder if his deal is similar and they are obvioulsy going to have to bump up his wage.
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| Quote ="SiY"There must be a reason Nobby is keeping Ainscough out. Ok maybe a little stint out the first team side to keep him fresh, but if Shaun doesn't feature again in this season it will be an outrage.'"
I have heard that its due to Seans contract, once he make a certain amount of 1st team games then his wage increases. This wouldve been fine if it where not for the signing of a Mr gleeson which by all accounts has taken us to the limit of the salary cap.
As a result noble is probably saving sean for when injurys hit the squad.
could be wrong but thats what i heard
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| Hmm, then maybe Noble is waiting for the right time to use him. It's a shame, i wouldn't think it would go up soo much.
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| so lets not use our best players cause there money goes up sounds about right ,,,, so if we cant play super leagues top try scorer cause his money goes up there s some thing wrong there
spoke to sean last week on facebook said to him he might of had a field day again st saints , an he said he was happy enough with the win fair play to him,
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| Quote ="Jukesays"No!
SOME PEOPLE WANTED HIS HEAD ON A STICK!
Not all of us!
And TBH it doesnt matter if someone did or didn't.
It still stands, Noble should pick the team he thinks will win that game. He will live & Die by that decision.'"
so your saying ainscough s not earned is place in the 17 mr brian noble lover
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| We have to go with Noble on this.
The decision is his.
Personally I might have gone with Ainscough, but tbh his defence needs improving (it's no good scoring 4 and letting 3 in).
He has time on his side though. Fix his defence (and work out a strat vs the high cross kick) and he could be an all time great. I rate him that highly.
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| Quote ="shooter69"so your saying ainscough s not earned is place in the 17 mr brian noble lover'"
Stop being childish. He hasn't said that at all, and you know he hasn't.
There's no need to get hot under the collar just because someone disagrees with you. Not everyone on here likes this decision by Noble, but others have given perfectly valid reasons why they're prepared to trust him on this one.
Noble's job is far from being safe. He's selecting sides that he thinks will win matches for us. He can't afford to be vindictive.
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| Please not Riddell though, he obviously isnt fit, he should be given time to recover and get match fit again, not risking him in a cup match!
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| Quote ="RB"icon_lol.gif at this anti-Noble bile just a few days after he masterminded our biggest win against Saints for about 5 years.
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Don't forget that he's masterminded some of our biggest defeats against Saints...and I've still not recovered from the semi final defeat against Catalans. One swallow does not bend its back to make the cabbage and all that.
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| Quote ="Salty"Don't forget that he's masterminded some of our biggest defeats against Saints...and I've still not recovered from the semi final defeat against Catalans. One swallow does not bend its back to make the cabbage and all that.'"
The defeat against Catalans was 2 years ago. Get over it.
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| Quote ="RB"The defeat against Catalans was 2 years ago. Get over it.
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I can't. I couldn't believe we could play like that in a semi. It was horrendous.
I've still not got over the video ref's decision of disallowing Richard's try in the right hand corner at Wakefield.
One good thing that sticks in my mind as unbelievable, like the above two, was Joe Lydon's drop goal from 65 yards.
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| Quote ="Madderzahatter"Noble can't seem to do anything right. I was as disappointed as anyone not to see SA in the team for Saints, but i hold my hands up. It was the right decision. As for Wakefield, we all know that Kear is a decent tactician and i'd hate to see SA get murdered by Wakey's kicking game. Seeing that it's a cup game I'm not surprised Noble has decided to leave him out.'"
You are either Eddie Hemmings or Brian Noble and I claim my £10.00!!!
How can you possibly say Noble's selection was vindicated just because we won? Not playing ainscough didn't make the difference, the team playing for once did!! Ainny would have scored both of the tries paddy did, so the only difference would have been would pat have kicked 7 from 7 playing full back?!?! Oooohhhhh, somehow i think he might not have you know!! :lol
Thus, Ainny being dropped had no bearing, who says he wouldnt have scored 4 had he played and we'da put 50 on saints
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