It was a bad call for Wakey and we definitely got away with one. Unrelated to today, Iv always thought it would be a good rule to change. Why not let the ball be tapped anywhere on the line to increase the chances of a line break?

I was in the North Stand and it was blatant. Caused a significant level of booing and anger at the ref and rightly so.

I don’t blame Marshall but the ref should have make him retake it.

Marshall simply chanced his arm and got away with it.

He clearly took the tap opposite the massive gap rather than from the centre.

I was in line with our first try and was amazed to see it given, enough evidence to show how poor refereeing standard has fallen

It's now wonder fans get frustrated

I was in line with our first try and was amazed to see it given, enough evidence to show how poor refereeing standard has fallen

It's now wonder fans get frustrated

Fair enough, it’s clearly a poor call but the willingness in the game to pin results on the ref is pretty startling. As I’ve pointed out above there were a couple of other dubious try decisions today (possibly including Marshall’s first) and generally things even up over a game,season etc.

Over the course of the game I felt we were actually quite harshly dealt with but of course I’m biased. I certainly didn’t feel there was any need for some of the OTT reactions of Wakey fans as they were leaving the stadium.

Exactly! Swings and roundabouts...suppose it’s a lot easier to slate the ref over the tap restart call than blame the poor defence or mention their first try looked dodgy and it evened itself out over the game.

The kicking off near the end when tommy got taken really high and we got the pen for it was so bizarre...got to be really bitter to give the ref a hard time over calls like that!

There was another one when Clubb went over and the in-goal judge indicated a try but the ref. said no try. The Marshall one from the tap was a wrong call I've seen a still shot of it but couldn't tell at the game, but Marshall deserves a bollocking for taking the longer route

Wind your neck in, you got a lucky try from a rebound and where the grounding was more than debatable plus a try from a blatant forward pass, but I suppose you didn’t see those.

We scored off a knock on and tapping on the wrong mark. I think the Powell one was fine. One of Wakey's tries wasn't grounded IMO. Tangata wants a right b*locking for the 20m restart try. He's in a fine position to make the tackle, then we wouldn't be talking about it, but he's more bothered about complaining to the ref than simply tackling him.

There was also a forward pass to escare for their third try

Looking at the try’s again I think there would’ve been a case to rule out both Marshall’s first and obviously third try’s. There’s also a strong case to say Wakey’s first should never be given, their second had a forward pass to Escare in the build up and their last try would’ve been interesting to see on Sky.

All in all I’d say about evens and a fair result.

I saw those, I also saw what looked to be a double movement at the end, but like I said, unless you're on Sky you're stuffed with the 50/50 knock-ons and forward passes, so you just get used to hoping they even themselves out over a game/season. But for a player to take a tap about 7 metres from the mark, and the ref to just let it go, despite being stood in line, is just shocking on both their parts. You wouldn't get that at an under 9s game, from player or ref.

Wakeys first and third weren't grounded

Looks fine to me, don't think ours is double movement either.

I agree 100%.

I've looked at Marshall's first try several times and I can't see anything wrong with it. What should I be looking for?
Fair enough the tap 20 but some you win and some you lose.

Two of their trys might not have got past the vidio ref. and I'm not talking about a forward pass to Escare because I don't think it was.

Not seen the 3rd but a very good picture on twitter of the first try being grounded.

Sarginson knock on the first Marshall try

I've seen it a few times now. Wakefield knock on into Sarginson and it bounces off him back to our try line. Only one knock on and it's by Wakefield.

I was dead level with it at the ground and that’s how I saw it at the time. I’ve only seen one angle on the replay on Sky though and that makes it look like two knock ons but it’s tough to say without seeing it from the other side.

You’d have tought Saints would come in against the lowest ranked team, ie the winner of 4th v 5th. Hey ho, we’ll beat Wire at home and Saints away then play Salford at O/T. Job done!!

Nope, because what would happen if 5th won? Would they go straight to GF? How is that a fair reward for finishing 5th.

1st get a week off
Play 2nd or 3rd at home
Get either a week off and straight to final if they win
Play 2nd/3rd or4th at home if they lose

Whilst 5th
Go away to 4 (lose they're out)
Go away to loser of 2v3 (lose theyre out)
Go away to loser of 1 v 2or3 (lose they're out).
Play a rested up team that have only played 1 game in 3 weeks whilst 5th have had to do it tough.

Best system weve had so far as far as I'm concerned
Everyone scrapping to get as high as they can
Doesn't reward mediocrity by letting 8th in.
Heavily favours the teams at the top.

Best system without doubt. Saints will get the reward they deserve for finishing first and each position after that rewards teams for finishing above the next in line.

I’d have been happy with 3rd place but 2nd would be fantastic for us now.

having seen a photo shot of the try I can see why it was awarded now

Sarg is running forwards, so I think the ball travels forwards in relation to the try line when it hits him. I get where you're coming from though and obviously that's what they've called on the day