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| Quote ="inside_man"He did just as much as Roberts today. Don't know what you expect of him, Donald was non-existant all game as welll.'"
Just for him to come inside and help our forwards out considering we played with a bench of 3. I said in my post he did well to clean up that grubber and didn't put a foot wrong (in that he made 0 mistakes), but when you've someone of that size on the park, for them to not do any of the hard yards on a day like today is criminal imo.
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| After watching the game today, Pryce for some one of his size sure went to ground easy enough in the tackle.Didnt see him make any real impact a big lad like him should be smashing players out the way.
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| This thread just shows how fans can have a much different view of the same game.
I thought your forwards just edged ours today and your long kicking game and chase were excellent. As good as i have seen at Leeds this season. Your kicking close to the line could have posed a few more questions but your superior field position was on the back of a great forward display and kicking game.
A great close battle and Wigan fans should be proud of there teams efforts.
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| Quote ="St pete"Whats good friday got to do with leeds knocking wigan out of the cc on the 29th of may 2010?'"
You've gone a bit Post Happy in the last couple of Hours.
Where have you been for the last couple of months?
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| Quote ="Jukesays"You've gone a bit Post Happy in the last couple of Hours.
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Florida for the last month pal.
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| Quote ="robbierotten"After watching the game today, Pryce for some one of his size sure went to ground easy enough in the tackle.Didnt see him make any real impact a big lad like him should be smashing players out the way.'"
I am not sure what people expect from Pryce.The days of Jonah Lomu are long gone. All players are technically sound and also physically trained pretty well.
Pryce took the ball up well, found his front in the tackle, defended well and the clean up for the kick through was superb.
I would like to see a little more enthusiasm from him, and a little more decisiveness when returning kicks but that will come.
Solid performance see you at Cas Karl.
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| Quote ="The Magic Rat"This thread just shows how fans can have a much different view of the same game.
I thought your forwards just edged ours today and your long kicking game and chase were excellent. As good as i have seen at Leeds this season. Your kicking close to the line could have posed a few more questions but your superior field position was on the back of a great forward display and kicking game.
A great close battle and Wigan fans should be proud of there teams efforts.'"
Correct!
Some of our fans think that every other club in the league has kickers that find the floor and stand it up in goal from 60/70 yards out 10 times a game!
It doesn't happen, I don't particularl;y think our long kivking game is "The Best" but it's not as bad as some make out.
It's strange they complain about it when one of the supposed best in Sinfield kicked it down Richards throat all day!
Truth is, kicking the ball from inside your own 30 and espacially when it's on the last with the wingers dropping back means your going to find a player 80% of the time.
My complaint was waiting till the last tackle, should have kicked early with Richards and whether Smith etc catches it or not they're in their own 20 not ours!
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| Quote ="Jukesays"You've gone a bit Post Happy in the last couple of Hours.
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I see what your getting at mate, its not like that, i have not said anything against wigan at all, in fact if you look, you will find i have said best team lost and i think you can make grand final from anywhere in top 8.
It was first game i have seen in about 5 weeks also mate.
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| Quote ="St pete"Florida for the last month pal.'"
Good on ya, any chance your going back for a few more months?
I mean it must be better than whatever pleasure you get from trying to Bait Wiganers after a close loss?
Especially when you start by pretending to not be gloating when in fact you can't help yourself?
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| Quote ="robbierotten"After watching the game today, Pryce for some one of his size sure went to ground easy enough in the tackle.Didnt see him make any real impact a big lad like him should be smashing players out the way.'"
Pryce is a huge player but he doesn't necessarily play like one. In a one on one situation I expect he'd prefer to try to round a player on the outside than try to force his way through them.
He didn't put a foot wrong (well, except literally when he slipped at a potentially crucial moment) and he defended the kick by our goal line very well.
The only criticism from me is the scoots from dummy half. He's nowhere near as quick off the mark as our other wingers so he can be quick sluggish, and when he does go into the tackle he's very upright and gets pushed back far too easily. I think he'd be better getting the ball as first receiver in those situations and running onto the ball hard like Richards does so well.
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| Quote ="Jukesays"Good on ya, any chance your going back for a few more months?
I mean it must be better than whatever pleasure you get from trying to Bait Wiganers after a close loss?
Especially when you start by pretending to not be gloating when in fact you can't help yourself?'"
Yes i will be going back in september mate, i am not gloating one bit and not trying to bait any goons as that ain't my style!! In fact im pretty pi$$ed off with that comment!
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| I to think having Tuson on the bench and not Feka was a mistake but i wont give Madge any stick because what he has done so far since being at the club has been incredible and i'm looking forward to see him improve us even futher.
Having said that i think his biggest mistake was not putting Amos back in at fullback. Amos has that explosive pace and elusiveness imo he might have helped us create a gap for himself or someone else when we was on top in territory and possesion. Also we never had the option of the kick to the left corner for Pat which is one of our biggest threats especially in close games.
Anyway chins up and continue as we are in the league, these lads are doing us proud this year.
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| Quote ="Jukesays"Good on ya, any chance your going back for a few more months?
I mean it must be better than whatever pleasure you get from trying to Bait Wiganers after a close loss?
Especially when you start by pretending to not be gloating when in fact you can't help yourself?'"
Had great time out there as well, you should see my tan, can't wait to go back.
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| Quote ="St pete"Had great time out there as well, you should see my tan, can't wait to go back.'"
This must be that infectious scouse Wit they keep going on about then?
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| Quote ="St pete"Had great time out there as well, you should see my tan, can't wait to go back.'"
Do you work out there? A month seems a long time for a family holiday.
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| Quote ="DP_wwrlfc"I to think having Tuson on the bench and not Feka was a mistake but i wont give Madge any stick because what he has done so far since being at the club has been incredible and i'm looking forward to see him improve us even futher.
[uHaving said that i think his biggest mistake was not putting Amos back in at fullback. Amos has that explosive pace and elusiveness imo he might have helped us create a gap for himself or someone else when we was on top in territory and possesion. Also we never had the option of the kick to the left corner for Pat which is one of our biggest threats especially in close games.[/u
Anyway chins up and continue as we are in the league, these lads are doing us proud this year.'"
I agree. Amos hardly got a touch and he needed that freedom that playing full back gives. We got in some good positions but Amos couldnt get involved enough because he was stuck out wide and we didnt often go that far wide maybe due to the conditions.
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| Quote ="Jukesays"This must be that infectious scouse Wit they keep going on about then?
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Scouse? Youv'e lost me.
Not getting caught up in a debate with you mate, i have said nothing but praise to wigan all year, at this time nobody can deny wigan are best team and look to have a very good coach in MM.
You can take my posts as you please but the is nothing but praise and a little light banter!
Grow up
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"Do you work out there? A month seems a long time for a family holiday.'"
No mate, don't work there. It was a family holiday, the kids was with us for first two weeks then me and mrs stopped over for another two weeks. I go twice a year, love it out there.
You ever been?
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| Quote ="St pete"No mate, don't work there. It was a family holiday, the kids was with us for first two weeks then me and mrs stopped over for another two weeks. I go twice a year, love it out there.
You ever been?'"
Nice, sounds like you had a great time.
Yes I've been lucky enough to visit. The first time was in 1983, I was only 3 at the time. My father had been working in Jamaica and as a reward for his continued loyalty they organized for me, my mother and elder brother to fly to Florida and meet up with my dad for a family holiday. I don't remember anything as you can imagine, but I've been back a few times since and really enjoyed it. The last time was in 2008 in Key West, a great place.
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"Nice, sounds like you had a great time.
Yes I've been lucky enough to visit. The first time was in 1983, I was only 3 at the time. My father had been working in Jamaica and as a reward for his continued loyalty they organized for me, my mother and elder brother to fly to Florida and meet up with my dad for a family holiday. I don't remember anything as you can imagine, but I've been back a few times since and really enjoyed it. The last time was in 2008 in Key West, a great place.'"
Cool, we went for the new harry potter world at islands of adventure but its not open until 18th june, still had great time and did all the parks then had last two weeks on beach near clearwater.
Prob be back out there just before kids go back to school in summer, il prob miss cc final if we get there
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| Quote ="St pete"Cool, we went for the new harry potter world at islands of adventure but its not open until 18th june, still had great time and did all the parks then had last two weeks on beach near clearwater.
Prob be back out there just before kids go back to school in summer, =#FF0000il prob miss cc final if we get there icon_sad.gif'"
Oh well you probably won't want Saints to get there if your likely to miss it.
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"Oh well you probably won't want Saints to get there if your likely to miss it.
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| Excellent comments jonh.
For all the brilliant stuff he has done this year, effective use of the bench seems to be one area which Maguire is still lacking. In a tough forward dominated match, why was Tuson not used and Farrell for only about 10 mins max.
Similar comments were passed last week at Crusaders, e.g. Piggy and McIlorum both on the field at the same time whilst Lockers and Bailey were sitting it out. Like most aspects of the game, bench management is a learned skill, learned especially I would think when one becomes Head Coach.
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