It's the number of errors, missed tackles and penalties that lets him down.

Even Rogues is becoming negative.

You need to peak twice in the season. In between you ned to be playing well enough to be able to gain points and build up a contingency (sound a bit like Noble using such words) however, BN does not care about the start of a season



Worryingly he believes Wigan were too elaborate



St Pats U8's are more elaborate than Noble's Wigan

To Mr Noble, do the decent thing and walk away

EXIT

Still think Sam Tomkins should be playing instead of the shambles that is Tim Smith. Hansen should start considering he got the most tackles in SL last year and is one of the best defensive players in the league.

seems to me that Noble won't play Sam Tomkins because everyone on here wants him too .... perhaps we should start a raft of threads pleading with Noble NOT to play him and then he might get into the 17 ...

or not ...

exactly......change half your team when you replace one player.....good work nobby.

On the positive side we'll get thumped again and then the writing will really be on the wall for our inspirational, tactical coach!

But apart from that.........................

You can make more tackles then a fella who struggles to be on the pitch for half the game. He has to make more metres with all the penalties and knock ons he does..it doesn't show how many sodding metres he's just handed to the opposition, i bet it would be enough to negate his lead on Fielden's metre gains.

Suppose that's possible. I still don't reckon he's much worse than Fielden though. But on the other hand... Prescott or O'Carroll would be preferable.

Also the whole Sam Tomkins argument. He surely should be playing in games like Wakey and Cas but I suppose Hull is a game more experienced players should be in, however, I think that if Nobby moved Tommy to Hooker, Smith to Scrum Half not stand off (he's not a stand off) and then dropped Tomkins in to Stand off for maybe the Cas game I'm sure we'll see a marked improvement.

I don't doubt someone has already said this. Ha...

oh and obviously move Lockers to 2nd row and bring Joel Tomkins into Loose Forward.

i've got you lot down for a win, you are a game ahead in terms of sharpness and will be hurting after being beaten by the mighty trin. plus big pat is a much better option at full back imo

have faith

The alarm bells will start ring if that happens, 2 losses were we expected to be win both, have faith its only Cas next

1. Richards
2. Roberts
3. Goulding
4. Carmont
5. Phelps
6. Smith
7. Leuluai
8. Fielden
9. Riddell
10. Prescott
11. Hansen
12. Bailey
13. O' loughlin

14. Tomkins
15. Hock
16. Feka
17. Mcillorum.

o' carroll & Coley to miss out.

Still no Pryce or S. Tomkins???? And no plan B on the bench if it all goes wrong.

Why no O'Carroll? He was one of our best players on Sunday.

How can you leave o'carroll out after his performance on Sunday? He was our best player!! I'd even go as far as giving him a starting spot (even though noble wont)

Roberts
Phelps
Goulding
Carmont
Richards
Smith
Leuluai
Fielden
Riddell
O'Carroll
Hansen
Tomkins
Lockers

Hock
Feka
McIlorum
Prescott

As if Brian Noble is actually reading this forum. please...

Mick Hogan does though

I'll go with that

Nope Noble said certain players seemed/had to have thier own agendas! both myself and my wife found it very strange a coach would say that in public.

I honestly remember him saying "if players have there own agendas as regards what they are thinking about (in response to the question on Wakey's injuries) then its something I will have to address with them".

I'm absolutely positive because when Trevor repeated it over and over out of context I chatted to my Dad about it. Would glady accept a transcript to prove me wrong

Oh he does. Ive seen him in his office on it at reserve games


If your reading this Brian....you rugby is boring ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzz.

Honestly i'm sure Noble said about players having thier own agendas....he did say that if players took the game lightly because of wakefields injury problems..then that was a weakness on thier part....Trevor did pick him up on the player sgenda issue and asked did he really belive that..and Noble answerd he did....maybe someone else heard the interview and could clear it up for us?....no matter who is right..it's worrying that the issue of players having an agenda as been brought up.

Nobby will be adjusting his monitors as we speak.

To be honest, I've seen him on it too. In fact you'd be suprised who reads these boards...

Only if you tell us

We are getting there.
I dont understand why so many on here keep putting Hock and Feka in the starting 13. Both should be on the bench, to make an impact when they come on!
In addition, I'd start with Fielden and Prescott, and then we'll have Feka and O'Carroll on the bench along with Hock and McIlorum. All four players can make a big impact when they come on!

Roberts
Phelps
Goulding
Carmont
Richards

Smith
Leuluai

Fielden
Riddell
Prescott

Hansen
J.Tomkins
O'Loughlin

Paleaaesina


Hock


O'Carroll


McIlorum



Bailey and Coley TO MISS OUT.

A rugby player reading these boards wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. Brian Blessed reading them would be a huge surprise. Is it Brian Blessed? Tell me it is!!!