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| Quote ="Wandering Warrior"If Sam wanted £200,000 a year from Union he could of got it easily. But instead he signed a 5 year contract with us.'"
I'm not buying that, rugby union not been after Sam. Kyle is highly sought after as they think he's going to be next Jason Robinson. |
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| Quote ="St pete"I'm not buying that, rugby union not been after Sam. Kyle is buggy sought after as they think he's going to be next Jason Robinson.'"
Hes not fit to lace Robinsons boots, Sam is a better player and has already achieved more. |
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| Quote ="St pete"Kyle is buggy sought after as they think he's going to be next Jason Robinson.'"
Why? Cause he's small and black? |
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| Quote ="MattyB"Why? Cause he's small and black?'"
What you talking about Willis? |
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| Quote ="MattyB"Why? Cause he's small and black?'"
Let's be honest, if Ashton can be a sensation in RU, then Eastmond certainly can.
The lack of tackling will suit them both.
Ashton doesn't have to make any, and Eastmond won't get injured in any.
Perfect arrangement. They could even do a Billy Beaumont and still be playing for England when they're 48. |
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| Quote ="Wandering Warrior"If Sam wanted £200,000 a year from Union he could of got it easily. But instead he signed a 5 year contract with us.'"
How long did sam have left on his contract before he signed his new 5yr deal? |
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| Quote ="St pete"I'm not buying that, rugby union not been after Sam. Kyle is buggy sought after as they think he's going to be next Jason Robinson.'"
Get fooked, even them muppets at union arent that stupid. If Sam put himself up for union there would be clubs queing up to sign him. |
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| Quote ="Wandering Warrior"Get fooked, even them muppets at union arent that stupid. If Sam put himself up for union there would be clubs queing up to sign him.'"
Nice choice of words, very grown up.
Would Sam turn down £200,000 a year to stay at Wigan?
Would Wigan match £200,000 a year? |
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| Quote ="St pete"How long did sam have left on his contract before he signed his new 5yr deal?'"
He signed a five year deal before last season.
He then signed a new five year deal before this season.
Prior to signing his initial five year deal I couldn't tell you how long he had left, Bilko might (he updates player contracts on Cherryandwhite). Probably less than one year I'd expect.
So in effect we tied Sam up as soon as it came clear what a talent he was and before the vultures from RU / NRL came in and swiped off with the best Wigan youngster since Shaun Edwards. |
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| Quote ="St pete"Would Sam turn down £200,000 a year to stay at Wigan?
Would Wigan match £200,000 a year?'"
Well if they want him, it will cost them £2 million+ to release him. |
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| Quote ="St pete"Nice choice of words, very grown up.
Would Sam turn down £200,000 a year to stay at Wigan?
Would Wigan match £200,000 a year?'"
Any player or person who did not give such an offer serious consideration is a fool imo.
It also helps that the place we are talking about is Bath - one of the more favourable places i have visited in this country.
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| Quote ="St pete"Nice choice of words, very grown up.
Would Sam turn down £200,000 a year to stay at Wigan?
Would Wigan match £200,000 a year?'"
Yes he probably would imo.
No because we wouldnt have to.
Them words nice and simple enough for you? |
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| Quote ="MattyB"He signed a five year deal before last season.
He then signed a new five year deal before this season.
Prior to signing his initial five year deal I couldn't tell you how long he had left, Bilko might (he updates player contracts on Cherryandwhite). Probably less than one year I'd expect.
So in effect we tied Sam up as soon as it came clear what a talent he was and before the vultures from RU / NRL came in and swiped off with the best Wigan youngster since Shaun Edwards.'"
Why would he sign a new 5yr deal when he had 4yrs remaining?
It can't have been for more money, he loves the club so much he'd turn down more money.
One idiot is saying he'd turn down 200k a season to stay at Wigan yet he signs a new improved 5yr deal with 4yrs remaining. |
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| Quote ="St pete"How long did sam have left on his contract before he signed his new 5yr deal?'"
He only extended it by a season iirc.
I can understand Saints not getting into a bidding war over Eastmond tbh but it's still a real shame. He isn't worth the gamble by Saints to match his Union offer because he's not proved he can get himself on the field on a regular enough basis to warrent that salary yet.
As for Sam Tomkins if the boot was on the other foot i'm sure we'd go as high as we possibly could for a deal if we had to fight Union off. We'd be well advised to do so aswell because the lad has proved that unlike Eastmond he's as durable as he is classy and even at 150-200k per season you'd be getting value for your money. |
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| Quote ="Wandering Warrior"Yes he probably would imo.
No because we wouldnt have to.
Them words nice and simple enough for you?'"
If Wigan is the reason he plays, why did he sign a new improved 5yr contract with 4yrs left of his current deal?
Money by any chance? |
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| Quote ="St pete"Why would he sign a new 5yr deal when he had 4yrs remaining?
It can't have been for more money, he loves the club so much he'd turn down more money.
One idiot is saying he'd turn down 200k a season to stay at Wigan yet he signs a new improved 5yr deal with 4yrs remaining.'"
Quote ="NickyKiss"Quote ="St pete"How long did sam have left on his contract before he signed his new 5yr deal?'"
He only extended it by a season iirc.
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He didn't
They basically tear up the existing contract, which may have had 4 years left at 50/60/70/80k scale and give him a New 5 yr contract that would say be on a 80/90/100/110/120 scale OR say 100k per year for 5 years (Just making them number up BTW not saying they are correct). |
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Quote ="St pete"Why would he sign a new 5yr deal when he had 4yrs remaining?
It can't have been for more money, he loves the club so much he'd turn down more money.
One idiot is saying he'd turn down 200k a season to stay at Wigan yet he signs a new improved 5yr deal with 4yrs remaining.'"
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Quote Both Sam and Joel are now contracted for Seasons 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014 and 2015, the later years being Options in Wigan's favour.
Sam's current contract ran until November 2014 whilst Joel's was due to expire in November 2011.'"
Sam Tomkins commented:
Quote "It has been a whirlwind last couple of Seasons for me and I am delighted to have agreed a new Contract with Wigan up until 2015. The Club has been magnificent to me and I am more than happy to repay their loyalty to me with performances on the field and, hopefully, some more silverware for the Wigan Fans'" |
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It can't have been for more money, he loves the club so much he'd turn down more money.
One idiot is saying he'd turn down 200k a season to stay at Wigan yet he signs a new improved 5yr deal with 4yrs remaining.'"
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Quote Both Sam and Joel are now contracted for Seasons 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014 and 2015, the later years being Options in Wigan's favour.
Sam's current contract ran until November 2014 whilst Joel's was due to expire in November 2011.'"
Sam Tomkins commented:
Quote "It has been a whirlwind last couple of Seasons for me and I am delighted to have agreed a new Contract with Wigan up until 2015. The Club has been magnificent to me and I am more than happy to repay their loyalty to me with performances on the field and, hopefully, some more silverware for the Wigan Fans'" | |
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| Quote ="St pete"Why would he sign a new 5yr deal when he had 4yrs remaining?
It can't have been for more money, he loves the club so much he'd turn down more money.
One idiot is saying he'd turn down 200k a season to stay at Wigan yet he signs a new improved 5yr deal with 4yrs remaining.'"
Maybe because he loves playing rugby league for Wigan and wants to stay here? If he got offered that money obviously we would offer him a bigger deal but he would stay for less than what they offer him imo.
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| Quote ="St pete"If Wigan is the reason he plays, why did he sign a new improved 5yr contract with 4yrs left of his current deal?
Money by any chance?'"
Because the club thought hmm hes a good player we want to hang on to him. Clearly something your mob havent grasped yet Do you honestly think he asked the club for a new deal when he had 4 years left on his current deal? |
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"He only extended it by a season iirc.
I can understand Saints not getting into a bidding war over Eastmond tbh but it's still a real shame. He isn't worth the gamble by Saints to match his Union offer because he's not proved he can get himself on the field on a regular enough basis to warrent that salary yet.
As for Sam Tomkins if the boot was on the other foot i'm sure we'd go as high as we possibly could for a deal if we had to fight Union off. We'd be well advised to do so aswell because the lad has proved that unlike Eastmond he's as durable as he is classy and even at 150-200k per season you'd be getting value for your money.'"
Good post and my thoughts exactly!
I'd imagine saints will have put what they worth Kyle is worth on the table and I'd imagine it was a good offer but what club in the right mind would offer £200,000 plus for a unproved player.
I'm glad saints have stood there ground with him.
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| Quote ="MattyB"I remember them laughing their cocks off when we lost Farrell.
Screw them.'"
And then some.
Any concern I have for England is far outweighed at the delight of 'them' losing a player they would have built a team around (amongst others).
My heart bleeds for them. |
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| Quote ="St pete"I also can't blame Kyle, £200,000 is good money for 20yr old.'"
Where has this value of £200k per season come from? Rumoured? |
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| Quote ="Guerrier"And then some.
Any concern I have for England is far outweighed at the delight of 'them' losing a player they would have built a team around (amongst others).
My heart bleeds for them.'"
Like I said, I WAS taking the pi$$ to get a bite.
However I would rather see him stay in SL or even have gone to the NRL than RU. |
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| Quote ="Wandering Warrior"Maybe because he loves playing rugby league for Wigan and wants to stay here? If he got offered that money obviously we would offer him a bigger deal but he would stay for less than what they offer him imo.
How can you call anybody an idiot when looking at your comments you think Eastmond is better than Sam?
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I don't think kyle is better than Sam, never have!
If you look back on my posts from last year I've said he's world class and last year was best english player in super league.
I've also said Kyle is unproven and not worth breaking the bank fir as he's proved nothing yet!
How did you know I was referring to you when I mentioned idiot? |
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Just looking at Wigan's situation with regards to their contracted players:
wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/in ... age_id=122
Player Contract Type Offered Date Announced Ends
George Carmont 1 Year Extension November 2010 November 2011
Andy Coley 1 Year Extension August 2010 November 2011*
Ben Davies 1 Year Extension Unknown November 2011*
Ryan Hoffman 1 Year Initial Contract July 2010 November 2011*
Stefan Marsh 1 Year Extension Unknown November 2011*
Karl Pryce 1 Year Extension November 2010 November 2011
Eamon O'Carroll 3 Years Extension April 2008 November 2011
Paul Prescott 2 Years Extension April 2008 November 2011
Pat Richards 3 Years Extension April 2008 November 2011
Stuart Fielden 2 Year Extension September 2010 November 2012
Brett Finch 2 Years Initial Contract July 2010 November 2012
Mike McIlorum 2 Years Extension Unknown November 2012
Chris Tuson 2 Year Extension December 2010 November 2012*
Thomas Leuluai 3 Years Extension April 2009 November 2012
Martin Gleeson 3.5 Years Initial Contract April 2009 November 2012
Sean O'Loughlin 4 Years Extension March 2008 November 2012
Amos Roberts 4 Years Initial Contract January 2009 November 2012
Jeff Lima 3 Years Initial Contract July 2010 November 2013
Harrison Hansen 3 Years Extension February 2010 November 2013
Darrell Goulding 3 Years Extension February 2010 November 2013
Logan Tomkins 3 Years Extension February 2010 November 2013
=#800000Lee Mossop 5 Years Extension March 2010 November 2014
Josh Charnley 3 Years Extension February 2010 November 2015
Liam Farrell 3 Years Extension February 2010 November 2015
Joel Tomkins 2 Years Extension February 2010 November 2015
Sam Tomkins 5 Years Extension February 2010 November 2015
*Deal includes an option for an extra year
It's great to see that we have signed up long term these talented youngsters who will be the backbone of a successful Wigan RL team over the next decade. |
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Just looking at Wigan's situation with regards to their contracted players:
wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/in ... age_id=122
Player Contract Type Offered Date Announced Ends
George Carmont 1 Year Extension November 2010 November 2011
Andy Coley 1 Year Extension August 2010 November 2011*
Ben Davies 1 Year Extension Unknown November 2011*
Ryan Hoffman 1 Year Initial Contract July 2010 November 2011*
Stefan Marsh 1 Year Extension Unknown November 2011*
Karl Pryce 1 Year Extension November 2010 November 2011
Eamon O'Carroll 3 Years Extension April 2008 November 2011
Paul Prescott 2 Years Extension April 2008 November 2011
Pat Richards 3 Years Extension April 2008 November 2011
Stuart Fielden 2 Year Extension September 2010 November 2012
Brett Finch 2 Years Initial Contract July 2010 November 2012
Mike McIlorum 2 Years Extension Unknown November 2012
Chris Tuson 2 Year Extension December 2010 November 2012*
Thomas Leuluai 3 Years Extension April 2009 November 2012
Martin Gleeson 3.5 Years Initial Contract April 2009 November 2012
Sean O'Loughlin 4 Years Extension March 2008 November 2012
Amos Roberts 4 Years Initial Contract January 2009 November 2012
Jeff Lima 3 Years Initial Contract July 2010 November 2013
Harrison Hansen 3 Years Extension February 2010 November 2013
Darrell Goulding 3 Years Extension February 2010 November 2013
Logan Tomkins 3 Years Extension February 2010 November 2013
=#800000Lee Mossop 5 Years Extension March 2010 November 2014
Josh Charnley 3 Years Extension February 2010 November 2015
Liam Farrell 3 Years Extension February 2010 November 2015
Joel Tomkins 2 Years Extension February 2010 November 2015
Sam Tomkins 5 Years Extension February 2010 November 2015
*Deal includes an option for an extra year
It's great to see that we have signed up long term these talented youngsters who will be the backbone of a successful Wigan RL team over the next decade. | |
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