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| Quote ="jonh"Tony Clubb having a great second spell.'"
I wouldn't say great. He's done better than his previous spell, but still not good enough or what we need imo.
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| Hardaker no try was correct. There is no stripping motion, lost in first impact. Our fitness is great, no coincidence that we keep pulling away late in games, set restarts and no scrums have played right into our hands.
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| Pretty boring game to watch with about 24 forwards on the field. We need to move on from Clubb ASAP and sort our attack out regardless of outside backs being not being available. Also quite worried about Singleton and then I’ve just seen him ragdolled. He’s had a poor start to the season but I’m happy with three wins.
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| Quote ="sergeant pepper"I wouldn't say great. He's done better than his previous spell, but still not good enough or what we need imo.'"
Changed the game for me with a couple of big contributions.
Overall 6/10 performance.
Did enough, never had to really dig deep, still not clicking in attack.
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| Nail and head then by Phil clarke not good enough in the middle and struggling for go forward
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| 3/3 and not playing well
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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"3/3 and not playing well'"
Have to agree with you
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| Much better second spell from Clubb. Young Hanley had by far his best game and the likes of Smithies and Shorrocks were excellent. There were plenty of minus points as well (goal kicking and the battering the starting props took in particular) but with so much strike to come back we can only be happy. The missing piece is a prop like young Oledzki for them but it’ll be tough to find one.
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| I've slated Hanley's performances every week. He's not quite proved me wrong, but he was solid for the first time today. Great to see his first errorless performance. I'd still leave him out next week if French returns, but it's encouraging. Would have liked to have seen Halsall get a crack after a good game last week, better than having two second rowers at centre. I thought Shorrocks had a bad game.
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| As others have said 3/3 and were not playing well, I would say quite poor in attack but really good in defence and our fitness looks good. Zak is playing well but for me he looks much fitter and I think he can excel at centre as well, I think people are forgetting how good French is and he will be wasted out of position. For me no need to worry, at this part of the season it’s about getting points on the board and hopefully hit form at the right time.
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| Happy with the wins but not really that impressed with performances. I think our defence overall is pretty good but our go forward is (and continues to be) pretty poor at times. Its unfair on those young forwards as we've been screaming out for a quality prop for years.
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| I know Leeds were missing more players than us but put Marshall, Manfredi, French, Field and Gildart back in and our attack is far more threatening.
With two second rowers in the centres we will never be as fluid as we want to be.
The Hastings try showed how much juice we had taken out of them, that was pure fatigue in defence. From that point on, although only 6 in front I never felt we were going to lose the game.
Big efforts from Smithies and Isa. I’m pleased for Hanley, an error free game and we saw half a glimpse of what he could do if we managed to give him the ball in some space.
Is it just me who can’t stand this new ball stripping rule.
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| I don't think Lam will even consider playing Hardaker at fullback when French is back.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"I don't think Lam will even consider playing Hardaker at fullback when French is back.'"
Post game interview didn’t sound like it did it.
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| Quote ="Grimmy"I've slated Hanley's performances every week. He's not quite proved me wrong, but he was solid for the first time today. Great to see his first errorless performance. I'd still leave him out next week if French returns, but it's encouraging. Would have liked to have seen Halsall get a crack after a good game last week, better than having two second rowers at centre. I thought Shorrocks had a bad game.'"
Shorrocks a bad game? Thought he had a cracker myself. Worked his socks off, good aggression and decent ground made. Hanley did more than just not make errors in fairness to him. He ran the ball pretty well and got a couple of opportunities in a bit of broken field where you can tell he’ll be strong. A good ending (as it probably should be) to his first spell of a few games for us.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"I don't think Lam will even consider playing Hardaker at fullback when French is back.'"
Yeah I think we’ll see Zak at centre pretty soon. He is probably right Lammy in that it’s best for the team. You don’t lose much, if anything at fullback (if French plays like last year), you get a more natural centre and a player in great form moving in to that 3 shirt, which then lets Isa or Faz move in to the back row.
One downside of Lams interview for me was him saying Smithies is a loose forward playing at second row as though he thinks he’s totally out of position. I think currently he plays out of position when he’s at loose forward. He played plenty of second row in the academy and his time will come in the middle. It doesn’t need to be now and shouldn’t be now at the minute.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Shorrocks a bad game? Thought he had a cracker myself. Worked his socks off, good aggression and decent ground made. Hanley did more than just not make errors in fairness to him. He ran the ball pretty well and got a couple of opportunities in a bit of broken field where you can tell he’ll be strong. A good ending (as it probably should be) to his first spell of a few games for us.'"
Maybe I'll think differently about Shorrocks when I watch it back or see the stats, just noticed him getting driven back a lot and giving up set restarts/penalties.
We do need to find a way to make these hard yards, Leeds had plenty field position to win that game but lacked the guile to punish us.
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| Quote ="Grimmy"Maybe I'll think differently about Shorrocks when I watch it back or see the stats, just noticed him getting driven back a lot and giving up set restarts/penalties.
We do need to find a way to make these hard yards, Leeds had plenty field position to win that game but lacked the guile to punish us.'"
Just liked his energy but there’s no doubt we’re short of one big man in the middle and he’s not that. I’m loving Smithies out wide and Shorrocks is another who probably should be eased in to it from the second row but he worked overtime tonight.
I’m sure when the big games come round we’ll see more lads step up. I don’t think Bateman has been anywhere near his best yet. I’d say the same for Powell as well but there’s no worries on those two. It’ll really help the side to get Isa and Faz back in the pack.
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| Quote ="Grimmy"Maybe I'll think differently about Shorrocks when I watch it back or see the stats, just noticed him getting driven back a lot and giving up set restarts/penalties.
We do need to find a way to make these hard yards, Leeds had plenty field position to win that game but lacked the guile to punish us.'"
I know Leeds were missing a few but it has to be said our defence was outstanding.
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| Good to get a win but we still look second best around the middle. One day a teams will steamroller us up the middle and then be able to spread it effectively. If we are struggling to get out of our own 25 the best teams will be lining up for attacking practice.
I have been saying for a while that Smithies needs to run further out and he looks threatening but he has a long way to go to be as good as Faz. As for Bateman and Powell they are at their best when they are going forward off a dominant drive.
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| Leeds gave it everything yet lost four tries to one.
Our forwards had a difficult time first half in gaining ground but I think we miss backs who get us out of our own half with fast scoots and quick play the ball. I do feel though Bullock and Singleton should be starting props.
With probably French and Manfredi back next week then our attacking ability.
Defence is excellent and though mistakes and penalties are happening too often maybe with better attacking players out there pressure will be eased and those mistakes can be reduced.
A good win by the team and Lam sounded very happy indeed.
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| As much as he battered us at points in the middle, I’m happy to see Oledzki starting to fulfil his potential. He’s a huge bloke and played big minutes tonight. He’ll be good news for England on that form and if he does keep that up I’m sure NRL eyes will be on him in droves.
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| Quote ="jonh"I know Leeds were missing a few but it has to be said our defence was outstanding.'"
Probably a boring stat but Wigan have only conceded more than one try in one of their last eight competitive games.
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| The pattern of sleep walking in the first 20 minutes continues.
Lack of go forward continues and we’re getting murdered at ruck every week.
I’m unsure how Zak Hardaker is such a media darling given his past. He’s not in the same league as French or Tomkins (two players he’s competing with current). He’s always in the wrong position on the block play. His off the cuff is great but maybe not against the better teams.
Ultimately this game and the other 3 will never be remembered and the only thing we have to do is tick off wins.
Hastings and Farrell were class.
Sterner tests the next 3 weeks
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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"3/3 and not playing well'"
Against the two worst teams in the competition and team missing 12 players
We will come short against better teams due to our lack of go forward.
As always a great defensive stint again tonight but our props are just not good enough and will get found out against Saints and possibly 3 or 4 teams with a better pack.
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