1 Madge is not here next season so i doubt he had anything to do with the signing IL is not a coach so is the signing down to Wane?

2 I dont agree with booing players, Pryce had so many chances and didn't step up to the mark all his tries my nan could have scored them either walk ins or against small wingers, look at goulding he is no world class winger but was 2nd top try scorer last season cause of the team around him another example is that bum Ade Gardner from saints he's gash but had a bag full of tries cause of the team around him

Not sure what IL's policy is, but Mo used to sign players. Apparently John Monie was not to pleased to hear that we'd signed Frano Botica, thinking that he was told old and small to add anything to the great side of the early 90s (and he was worried about his dodgy knees). To be fair to Mo, that was one decision he got right!

Good luck, he has been far from impressive for us.

god help the lad if doesn't turn into sam thaiday in his first 2 mins of his debut.

He's going to be a impact second rower IMO.

BENCH

Hock
Lauaki
Lima
Mcilurom

Looks good to me

Mossop and Prescott our starting props then?

Who've you got starting at SR then? Remember we are losing Hoffman.

link please?

Hansen + Hock

If everyones fit i would go with.

Fielden
Tommy
Mossop
Farrell
Hansen
Lockers

Lima
Prescott
Hock
Mcilurom

He had Hock on the bench, why I asked. For me Hansen and Hock should start next season, 2 props a hooker and a SR on the bench which would leave Farrell, Tuson and Lauaki fighting for a bench spot.

Thats exactly what will happen IMO.

I think people are getting a bit to hot and bothered thinking Lauaki will stroll in and take hoffmans or coley's shirt..that wont happen.

Question were asked when we signed Carmont and he turned out alright, I'm prepared to leave my judgement untill Lauaki plays for us.

I'll give him the same support any other Wigan player would get but on the face of it - it seems baffling.

As there been any proof that he as signed nothing on the Wigan board.

Interesting.

A mate of mine is a Hull FC fan, and attributes Agar's management and tactics (or lack of both) to why people may be underwhelmed.

He's improved greatly since he came over, seeing as he doesn't give away as many penalties while he's holding the ball. Get him on the back of our training and fitness regimes, and the more structured attacks and I'm quietly confident he'll be a good signing for Wigan in 2012. Assuming, that is, he has signed

this is rumour until officially confirmed.........so all debates hypothetical.

and pointless

He hasn't improved greatly since he came over at all. His best game in a black and white shirt was his first (remember that foggy night against Saints?). Since then, he's shown glimpses that he has the makings of a good impact second rower (in attack at least), but has failed to produce anything like his best form on a consistent basis.

That said, I wouldn't be at all surprised if much of his indifferent form has been down to Agar's coaching and the fact that he's using him as a prop. With someone who knows what they're doing, he could be a good player. They'd have to sort out his half-hearted and lazy defensive technique first, though.

Well summed up, RG.

Lauaki has been a big disappointment for Hull FC. BTW he debuted for Hull at the end of 2009.

We signed him in the February but had no end of problems getting his visa and he then put his hand through a pane of glass at home moving some furniture (some might say that included more effort than all his time in a Hull shirt but I couldn't possibly comment). He played the last three games that season and the six month wait wasn't really worth it.

Who knows, he may flourish under a competent coach but I wouldn't mourn him leaving Hull FC.

Interesting that the Hull fans consider him a 2nd row - we're really short in that position aren't we?

A poor man's Feka in the 2nd row.

This cant be true? Just abslutely ridiculous if it is

Looks like we beat Salford for his signature. Says it all really!

Sean Long seemed to grasp when and how to pass to Lauaki at the right time.....I personally think we haven't seen the best of him as a 2nd row since Long has been out all the time.

Lauaki could go well for you, I just think he needs a coaching team who truly believe in him. Think Agar and Co told him to curb his aggression and since then he seems to slow up on impact when played at prop.

Plus he will be around a winning mentality culture and with new attacking structures to learn and be a part of, you could see him do alright.

Let's hope we get a shock and Manu turns up instead.

lets hope we get a shock and sign someone in a position we actually need.

Did Carmont get everyone excited when we signed him? Did Leuluai? Did Coley?

All 3 of the players above were not exactly international class players when we signed them.

Give Lauaki a chance. He has been in a poor team under a poor coach at Hull. He is probably unfit and looked after poorly and playing under poor systems.

He has some very, very raw talent with ball in hand, he is very aggresive which is exactly what we lack at times. Let Bitcon get him fit and bulked up and let him train with our team and give him a chance.

Ok, he doesn't exactly get me excited but I trust that Wane probably sees something in him. He has a good judgement on players from what I can see. Look at his record working in our youth system.

Look what our coaching staff have done with Mossop. He had a little bit of raw talent and they have turned him into our best prop and one of our top tacklers. Lauaki has super league experience and with the guidance of our coaching staff I think he could be useful. I say give him a chance if he signs.

Finally despite our very talented backrow, probably the best in super league in terms of depth... they are actually all quite similar players. Only Farrell and Hock offer us something slightly different IMO. Most of our SR are workers but none are actually devastating runners. Only Hock has that ability and Farrell has quick feet.