Not yet watched the game as I’ve been in work. Probably sit down to watch it tomorrow.

WB should go, but not in the middle of a tour. I suspect he won’t be GB coach again given the tours are every 4yrs (IIRC) and off the back of this tour I’d like to think the RFL would look deeply into WB moving forward as England coach.

Ultimately for me the job must be the only coaching job that coach has and a full time role. I do think it would suit Shaun Wane down to the ground but it’s a massive gamble on his part; if he takes it and isn’t successful he can kiss goodbye to an NRL gig. However if he is successful he will get a gig there. But therein lies an issue onto itself, the England job being used as a stepping stone to an NRL job.

Realistically the list to do the job in a full time basis is a pretty small list and that is a huge issue. If/when WB is moved on we will probably select an already employed coach and we’ll go no further forward. That’s why for me it needs to be a full time role.

I struggle to see the need for a full-time coach as long as actual international matches are like hens' teeth.

Not half way through a tour, but after this, I agree. I feel like we have missed a golden opportunity with Hall, Graham, Roby, S.Burgess and Lockers. They were all equivalent or better than anyone else in the world, all at their peak at the same time, and still couldn't win anything, and some of them didn't even pick up any wins against the aussies. Who's going to be in that bracket now they're all retired/over the hill? Bateman is the only one I have much confidence in.

Bennett is an ozzie. That tells me all I need to know as far as being the Great Britain coach.

After match comments indicate that he is not too concerned about the team's 2 losses in a row.

Said that the team is improving and on the up and not going backwards. Also played against a quality team.

Even though we've now been overtaken as the third best team in the world?

If he really made those comments he's either a) too complacent for a job like this, or b) hasn't yet woken up and smelled the coffee.

I used to hugely admire Wayne Bennett as a coach and a man, but let's not pretend that the old magic is working for England/GB, because it quite plainly isn't.

Are Tonga therefore the best team in the world then?

Then quite simply he has not been watching the games most of us lot have been watching. We dont have an attacking move in us and there isnt a player in the team capable of doing something special because he sent the most dangerous attacking player in SL home (Tomkins).

He’s clearly not a fan of Sam Tomkins. He had to rely on a good few injuries to get a place last year and then played very well in two wins against the Kiwis yet loses his place. His exclusion and certainly Liam Watts exclusion were two really poor calls. I don’t have that much against him not taking an extra winger or centre because I’m not convinced there’s anybody good enough who’s not travelled or who’s not injured. Even worse then leaving Watts out has been his tactics. After a few basic errors whilst playing conservatively in his first game, it looked like the players had been sent out with the first aim not being to win the game but to complete as close to 100% as possible and hope that would lead to a victory.

They’ve beaten NZ, GB and Australia in that order in 3weeks. It’s arguable that currently they are the best team in the world. Their win v Australia yesterday could and should start something for other Pacific islands such as Samoa, PNG, Fiji, Cook Islands and even Lebanon. If Tonga can convince their national players (or heritage) to commit for them, why can’t the others?

And I tell you what if those teams turned out their absolute best 17 we could be in a whole world of trouble.

Knowing the RFL as we do, does anyone really expect them to sack Bennett?
I don't!

I'm not sure how this is a relevant repsonse to my point.

There surely can be no doubt that GB/Eng are no longer in the top three (it's not necessarly a permanent thing, but certainly that's the case in 2019).

And this has happened under Wayne Bennett's watch.

I'll say it again that I used to admire him greatly. But I think his time has gone.

Are you sure they beat NZ three weeks ago? I thought the last time they played was in summer, and NZ won

I think there's plenty of doubt who is in the top three. NZ beat Australia and Tonga in their last games against them. We played badly but were a dropped ball over the line away from beating NZ, and having played Aus in a while. Over here we beat NZ in two games out of three last year, with them only winning the dead rubber when a few changes were made. I'd say it's more of the same - Aus always beat us and NZ games are won by the home team.

I agree Bennet should go, the tactics were poor (although he criticised the first half one-out rugby himself, which does make you wonder whether they played to the instructions).

Tonga last played NZ in Auckland last June and lost 34-14. NZ last played Aus. in Woolongong a week or so ago (Oct 25th) losing 26-4.

Yep. Tonga beat New Zealand not so long ago by 20+

That's what I thought! NZ beat Tonga

I was responding to this to show that NZ hadn't beaten Australia in their last meeting.

Well once again a typical Bennett flat attack display with nothing but forwards crashing on to flat balls time and time again. Why bother even having half backs on the field. Just play 2 extra forwards at 6 and 7.

No emotion or excitement in the GB players. A team looking as depressed and boring as the man coaching them.

I called for Bennett to be sacked last week and Watson put in charge to try and salvage something from what is likely to now be a disastrous tour. Once again i have been proven right. Theres still time, not to win the series but to at least salvage some pride but that can only happen if Bennett is kicked out immediately.

Terrible. And made to look worse by the fact that NZ were much improved on the last game. For a decent blueprint, you only have to look at their tactics: halves that run the show, a good kicking game, sharpness from dummy-half from Smith, a strike threat on the flanks... all the things GB didn't have.

GB had loads of ball (well, enough) in the NZ 20. Andwhere was the attacking nous from our master tactician coach?

The only tactic he seems to have left in his locker is "We'll take the two"!

Scoot, scoot, drive, drive and balls up on the last tackle and under no circumstances do you offload or deviate from the game plan - Wayne Bennett 2019

Very very disappointing.

Just very poor tactics, performances and squad.

The tour has been a disaster.

Bennett is off contract next week and for me it’s time for him to go.

We look like we are running in treacle. Very frustrating the lack of enthusiasm and pride in the shirt.

How Hodgson can be so poor despite tearing it up week in week out is a real mystery....the fact he has been allowed so much game time despite us looking so much better with Clarke on the field.

The likes of Graham, Hall, Hill are done at this level. Time to change everything up, we have 2 years to grow this team prior to the World Cup.

Tactics so very poor, Widdop and Hastings awful.

Only ones that come out of this with their reputations in tact are Lomax, Bateman and Whitehead.

Most frustratingly though is the lack of enthusiasm and passion.

You look at Tonga, those lads would die for that shirt and they play like it. We just don’t look interested and that is criminal.

I throw my arms up in despair !

British born Super League based players only please

You wouldn't select Bateman?