As fans we are customers of the club, and while we should be informed the full details are not necessary.

As long as his employees ie the coaches and players are happy with the situation and the information they get so that it does not have a detrimental affect on their performance I am more than happy with IFL's policy.

I appreciate there were mumblings throughout last year regards Hock, but I do not think it is any coincidence we look to pick at the club when we go through a bit of a form blip.

Part of what makes us the best most intelligent fans in the game is the desire to know all the ins and outs at our great club, but realistically that is never going to happen, despite our thirst for it.

+1

Perhaps the Brigantes should organise a forum for themselves to keep the "muppet" fans away?

agree

And stop them asking stupid questions about day coach trips to Perpignan?

your just gutted you didn't think of it in the first place, having said that your age would exclude you from this chav enterprise!

just does my head in that the club let so much speculation go on and on by so many different people. NRL, other fans ,Us,the news etc.

Fans need to remember that we have no idea what is going on behind the scenes, it is the same when anything happens. Fans forget about the players/coaching staff family, we often forget it is actually their job which they get paid for, there is just as many complications of somebody leaving your own workplace. It is also peaople's lives which are being messed with, we still don't know what happened to Gleeson but why do we deserve to know if Gleeson does not want that?

Lets say FOR EXAMPLE that Gleeson has a bad drinking problem (this is just the sort of situation I can imagine the club wanting to let him go). Does anybody really think Gleeson wants this information being released? Would you want everyone to know if it was you?

As for the Hock situation, the moaning on here about not knowing what was going on was pretty silly. We actually knew what had happened, it was just a case of wanting to know more. We know the punishment which is 2 years and everyone wanted to know if we would keep Hock. The simple answer is I don't think the club knew which decision to make at the time and too right, why say they would definantly keep him only to watch him go back down the same path, no, they assesed his situation and have seen he is keeping himself fit. I am assuming any announcement was made when they were sure he would definantly come back.

As for Madge, the club have said nothing, this either means that nothing has been signed OR it is being kept quiet so we only find out at the end of the season. Either way he is our coach till at least the end of this season.

In answer to the question. Does the club have a duty to tell us what is going on.... YES, we are paying customers.

BUT...

Not in our TIME, but in the TIME of the club and player/person involved. Finally we can not expect to be fed personal information so we can have a lovely thursday afternoon posting in a 70 page thread about how stupid the person has been.

Which was exactly my point earlier why they don't respond to it, it would be never ending. Thankfully Lenegan runs the club in private and not through the media. He's not done too bad so far.

its a players choice to play for a living many i know have turned down the chance to play pro as they dont want the hassle. if you choose to play pro you cant then complain when questions are being asked you are in the public eye for all to see.

do i think the club have the right to tell us things...no i dont especially regarding legal matters and contracts

however without us there would be no club so i think the club have an obligation to keep fans in the loop

Did someone say mild !!!!!!!

I'm only allowed to drink in wine bars, living in Leeds.

Well a 250ml glass then...

I prefer one of those glasses you can get the whole bottle in.

Well Andy i agree with you too so mines a Vodka -tonic

badum tish!!!

I'm still trying to make sense of the thread title, honest.

This.

+ another!!

I know. Some people absolutely murder the English language. Maybe the education system has a lot to answer for ?

Trying to decipher the header for the thread, I will take a guess at an answer and suggest that in my opinion Mr.Lenagan is 'tearing his hair out' at the antics of Gleeson and the coach Maguire.

They don't but that wasn't what the issue was. No one expects to know the gory details but rather the issue was why was it taking so long? It really doesn't take very long to sack anyone who has breached any clubs rules sufficiently to sack them and the fact he has signed for Hull gives lie to two of the reasons given he left, injury and time out of the game. That leaves minor disciplinary issue. It's been a bit of a screw up if you ask me and had the club just been able to sack him we would have seen this happen much sooner.



The trouble with complete silence in the face of such strong rumours is people begin to ascribe things like poor performances to the fact the coach is leaving and so on. Also IL is not totally in control of the situation in that Souths (if they sign Madge) may well make an announcement. There comes a time when silence is more counter productive than saying something. I think we have got there with the Souths rumour. In particular since there is no denial over the rumour everyone assumes Madge is off and its all doom and gloom. It's all over the press and its not a minor issue like the kind we see over "are we signing player X".




Perhaps he doesn't like handling the awkward questions and only wants to dish out good news? I mean if Madge does leave I think its a legitimate question to ask as to how someone the club stated has a three year deal for 2010, 2011 and 2012 was able to to so. If it turns out there was a get out clause or it never was a straight three year deal he could clear that up. He'd not look very smart having to admit that was so but at least it would be honest and people might actually believe what the club says in future because at the moment you simply can't do that.

As someone who had to chair a disciplinary panel once and was in the unfortunately position of having to recommend dismissal - you couldn't be more wrong. In terms of speed it was lightning fast. In terms of what was said publically, there was always going to be an amount of spin put on it to ensure both parties could walk away.



As I've said already, thankfully Lenegan runs the club in private and says something when there's something to be said (the only time I've had a problem with that was the Hock situation when the club said they would says something after the B sample test, then didn't) and doesn't respond to speculation. If the usual suspects are getting all y because the club refuse to be pushed by paper gossip, they're obviously doing the right thing.

Having also sat on a disciplinary panel, the case I was involved in took 4 full days in total over a period of 5 weeks. It was a real pain getting all the people involved sitting round the table at the same time due to various other commitments.

absolutely 100% correct.

Hope you still sacked the ba$tard.