I think we need to win the forward battle more often first!

Sort the front row out.

1. Reignite Fielden's spark.
2. Turn Feka back into the premier wreaking ball we know he can be.
3. Teach Prekkie how to carry a rugby ball into a collision
4. Stop Coley from having brain explosions.
5. Get us an enforcer!!!

If Long was playing 7 for Wigan tonight we go to Old Trafford next week.

It's like Groundhog day every time we are in a tight defensive game - we've nobody who can take the game by the scruff of the neck and dictate it. It's too soon for Sam by a couple of years so Leuluai needs to be the one who does it, but time and again he proves he just isn't up to it.

Correct.

Should have put £4k in those brown paper bags instead of £2k then

Lulu to 9, Piggy on the bench and McIlorum released, that'll do fer me

McIllorum is an aggresive tackler, don't get rid play him second row.

No way , release ridell he is e, MAC is a far better player

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The same McIlorum who was declared a future GB hooker by everyone on here after his first appearance?

Everyone declared that?

Yes, IL isn't going to release Piggy as he is on a nice whack and will cost too much, i'd rather keep Tommy at 7 myself but after all the majority are saying Tommy to 9 so IMo it will b MM who will go if this happens

Isn't MM in the first year of a 3 year deal?
Tommy played better at 9 tonight than 7, or better when Piggy was off.
Piggy was awful in his first stint and not much better later on.
Yes we need a half back but why when we've needed one for 2 years does anyone think IL will buy one now when we are getting a new coach?
It will be intersting to see if IL does go and buy the players we've needed for so long now we have a new coach on Wednesday.

People might rip me for this but here goes.

I think the edge we missed was just that extra wide pass and little bit of organisation in the attacking line, the man for the job would of been Tim Smith. Had he been playing we could of scored a few in the last few mins.

We'd have been ripped apart in defence though tonight i think with him in the team. These tough, bruising encounters are not when Tim Smith shines, he's fantastic when your team is on top, whereas tonight was an arm-wrestle of a match which i think he'd have struggled as much as anyone to make an impact.

Although I agree with you Smith could bring that little bi extra to the party, he was also a liability in defence. No ripping, good point, I sometimes feel that up close to the line we rely on individual magic rather than organised passing moves. The one incident was on the 5th it was left to Fielden to put the kick in (wasn't a bad kick), but he aint no Andy Farrell its should have been a set play. That what we still lack a cool head and a proper game organiser. That was what Smith was. (Just crap in defence though).

If we are going to point the finger at the halves think Golden Boy Tomkins came up with some poor plays tonight.

Wonder if TL came from Wigan he would get the same stick.

For 60 minutes he was the most effective half for Wigan.

I am happy with him at 7, long may it continue in my opinion.

Tomkins gets let off because he is a Wigan lad and he is still not very experienced. I don't want to give any stick to our best prospect for a very long time so long may it continue. Leuluai is meant to be the finished article but Tomkins is not expected to be.

Thought Leuluai had a great game, he always does against Saints.

If we are pointing fingers then Piggy's distribution gets the big pinky. Tonight his passing was crap. Why we are on the subject for some reason Presscott scares the 5h1t@ out of me every time he takes the ball into a collision.

I am not having a pop at Tomkins think he went ok, but i think TL went better cant understand why he gets stick at 7, seems fashionable to do so some times despite his performances.

I think TL did good tonight, this season in general he has been good. I think he would be better for us at 9, and get someone in with a better kicking and organising record at either 6 / 7.

I agree Riddell was poor again but to be honest he has been poor all season, PP has really impressed me and will make a really good prop but he can be prone to the occasional knock on but im sure he can rid these errors from his game, as for Sam once again he had little options or protection, but im sure our new coach will address these issues quickly.

Agree with this think both our halves are left hanging out to dry, with no options, no runners other than those heading straight to there defence.

We've all seen it with Riddell. Lacks in defence and attack but has shocking distribution. How are our players meant to take a well-timed ball if he one ptb decides to pass from the floor and the next pick it up and take a step? Both him and Roberts have seriously let the side down this season with their overall 'form'. For the money they are on, we should not be letting them get away with sub-standard performances in the first year of a lucrative contract.