Roby played 80 mins and tackled his balls off, he was by far the most effective tackler on the pitch, he did more in defence than anyone.... League Express figures state he was our best tackler with 32 tackles, compare to Morley 10 tackles, McGuire 8 tackles, S Briscoe 4 tackles, T Briscoe 2 tackles, Lee Smith 9 tackles, even Tomkins who played well IMO was at only 16 tackles.

Maguire as had chance after chance decent SL level player will never be International.

Losing his place to a Rookie proves that

It means he was a young kid playing in a beaten team who had an off day.

Given the fact he was named in the SL dream team over McGuire what does that say?

Sinfield was controlling the forwards guiding them round the park ensuring that it went to the side that he favoured.

The fact is Tomkins showed more promise in that one game than McGuire has in his International career apart from 1 England "A" International back in the days of touring Australian sides.

McGuire is a cracking player and will go down as a Leeds great (not legend), Tomkins has the potential to go down as an England legend, something McGuire had when he first hit the scene but quickly showed he lacked the mental strength to realise that potential.

It doesn't say much does it? Kevin Penny anyone? McGuire had a great season. The difference is Tomkins is young and wasn't expected to do well, McGuire is expected to do well.

The 2nd paragraph I have highlighted is utter bollo#ks.

Should Sinfield have switched play to pass to Tomkins everytime just to make you happy?

Yes, i believe he should.

Thats very clever editing. I'm impressed.

No he should have played a more balanced game.

The fact that you compare Kevin Penny with Sam Tomkins shows a massive ignorance for the game of Rugby League.

you never beat Hogan and his forum editing game

Thank you , i shall teach you one day.

I have to admit, im not really sure how Danny gets into the Leeds team half the time never mind the England team.

Finally something we agree on!

But to be fair mate, he is a pretty effective if not limited half back at Sl level, you should not be too hard on the lad.

The Sam Tomkins that scored a try and brought us back into the game?

Didn't in the playoffs. George and Pat got the tries.

Sorry, was thinking about the Eastmond 'waterslide' match.

How about giving the lad a chance?

Agreed.

He deserves his chance
a) On Bridges form at the back end of the season

b) Due to Smiths very poor performance last Saturday

I think people wiull be pleasantly surprised with Bridge on Saturday, personally I think he's a cracking player and, if he avoids injuries, will be comfartable the best England qualified centre next season.

I think a lot of the vitriol on here is firmly grounded in a disappointment that Gleeson was overlooked rather than an objective view of Bridge as a player.

Having followed Bridge's career since he destroyed Wigan academy in a play off final as a teenager at Bradford, I'd suggest some of my fellow C&W watchers pay a bit more attention to him. For me he's starting to live up to his early potential under Smith at Wire after coasting under the likes of Cullen and Lowes.

Agreed, hope he manages to kick on, we need all the centres we can get.

On a side issue, can you please refrain from quoting me when I post so hastily with such poor spelling and grammar

He was a class act as an academy player, and I hope for his, the games, and Englands sake that he shows that flair on Saturday.

Agreed. Peacock is our best front rower so why on earth are we playing him in the second row. Personally I think Tony Smith has lost the plot here and not only with that decision. Why on gods earth have we to potentially three backrowers on the bench (depending on where Burgess comes on)??? As a Saints fan I dont think Wilkin is up to International level and personally I would have rather an extra prop on the bench in Carvell. The New Zealanders are a physically huge team and we need as much beef up front starting as we do on the bench.

I'm happy with Bridge being selected, strong, aggressive, quick and good hands.

The only real gripes I have are

a) with Roby starting (rather Diskin but if not Sinfield was great at 9 last week),
b) Wilkin - don't think he's big enough or plays hard enough for a forward. He's fine when his teams on top but I think he'll get little change from teh kiwis or aussies
c) and possibly Peacock at 2nd row- not as mobile as he was and starting to show his age a little I think.

Brave decision to go with Sam and Kyle at the halves - good decision.

Agreed with all points here. Roby should be on the bench, his best work is when he comes off and reaps havoc on tired defences. Wilkin isnt International standard and Peacock is the best front rower in SL (with the possible exception of Graham). Leave the Captain at Prop.

Must be a different Bridge to the one I've ever seen

Yeah it must be.