I am basing my comments on what I [usaw[/u at the game which since that is all I have seen seems fair enough to me. Lockers as I have often said on here is far too shy compared to Sinfield or Briers so to see him blow a gasket is way out of character.

I find it interesting though that you ignore the points I made about sending offs in general. You know that all those saying "It was definitely a sending off" have never disagreed with such a decision themselves in the face of others saying it was. From [iwhat I saw at the game[/i it was one of those that might get a red a yellow or nothing. It's yet another incident that makes the case for video refs at all games or at none because I am convinced it was Ganson watching it in slow motion (as no doubt you did on the replays) who made the decision.

Then why all the booing of the ref ?

It was very loud.

The ref always gets booed when we lose, whether they sent one of our players off or not.

Oh no they don't !

And certainly not to that level of decibels.

Just watched the recording and definitely a red card. McIlorum has become something of a liability recently and on recent form isn't going to be missed the next few weeks.

As much as Wane wants to be his own man, he could well do with taking a leaf out of the Maguire book of coaching and keep his effing mouth shut.

No they don't. Sometimes it happens that teams turn up who want it more, or we play like donkeys. Or there's just a good game of running rugby. Unfortunately we're lumbered with useless pr*ks like Child & Alibert who should never have been given a whistle in the first place.

not read all of this thread so forgive me if i repeat someone else but i think it probably was a red but ive also seen certain players let off with exactly the same, i mean players like morley do at least 1 high tackle every week and never get sent off or suspended thats the difference. i'd like to see the differential between penalties conceded for high tackles and those sent off and its the same for those that throw punches because every time ive seen a wigan player in a fight or punch up he's been sent off or suspended but thats not the case for other players in other teams WHY?.

1 more thing how come a swinging arm is a red card but elbowing ur opponent in the head while he is on the floor isn't.

I've just watched it too. He got what he deserved. Strangely enough I actually mentioned this a month or so ago, it was a "car crash" waitng to happen.
He deserves three or four matches for being so stupid.

Don't you see the irony of your own post? The fact is you can't defend the sending off and then say Perry was lucky to stay on. There's either consistency or there isn't. In this case there definitely isn't; either in the decisions or your post! I In addition I could point to tens of similar incidents this season that haven't resulted in sendings off, or even sin-binnings in most cases. It's been the same with punching. The week after MM got sent off for a single punch, Paul Wood didn't even get sin-binned for a much worse one! The simple fact is, whether the decision was a correct one or not (and that is open to opinion) there is no doubt whatsoever that the consistancy and standard of refereeing this season has been the worst I have seen in over 20 years of watching rugby. Childs performance tonight, with or without the sending off, was of the same standard we have come to expect from SL referees and, in my opionion, has stared to result in situations where games are efectively being ruined for thousands of paying spectators. Something needs to be done. Unfortunately I strongly suspect that the situation is not set to improve anytime soon.

From a neutrals perspective, that was as clear a sending off as you're ever likely to see; late, high and intentional.

I don't know why anyone's surprised - as talented as the player is, he's been an accident waiting to happen; cost you the game there and could have further repercussions when he cops an inevitable 2-3 match ban.

It seems you and wane are the minority but everyone is entitled to their view, I'm sure the RFL will deal with it on Tuesday.

I expected this thread to be about how embarassing it is to watch attempt to referee a game of rugby league. The players don't respect him.

I don't see how people can disagree with this decision. Watch it back on Sky and you'll see that it wasn't a tackle, the only contact is Macillorum's forearm on Laffranchi's head, no attempt to make a tackle whatsoever, no "1st impact on the shoulder", not even a shoulder charge, it was just a cynical late assault on a player looking the other way.

I don't disagree with the red card decision at all. But the standard of the rest of the decisions last night were ridiculous. Perry should have at least had 10 in the bin.

There were decisions that were incorrectly given for both teams last night but the sheer number of times it happened is beyond belief.

I think McIIorum was rash and stupid, a hot head, and will IMO will get one for it. I don’t think the actual incident was quite as bad on looking at it again when I got home. What about the Perry on Lima thing in the second half; double standards or what!

Idiot. Blessing in disguise for Wigan this, Tommy at 9, Smith 7 Finch 6. Far more creativity in attack. We are ridicukously predictable in attack, 2 dummy runners, Sam loops round the back. If that doesn't work we turn it back inside to Lima/Mossop. Poor, poor coaching.

On another note, Darrell Goulding, hang your head in shame, absoulutely ruined by Josh Jones for 80 minutes, it was cringeworthy to watch from a so called "international"

Warrington will win the Grand Final simply because they have the best coach, Wane is vastly overrated and has merely inherited a good side that Maguire did all the groundwork for.

Straight red. But, as i i have not read the thread, has anyone mentioned SOL's head shot, or the cowardly head shot on Lima whilst he was on the floor?. I don't mind the red card for MM's actions, but i would like some consistancy.

I'm wondering about the view of the tackle being late, the ball had hardly moved on and there was no way that MM could have pulled out from the tackle.

You are right about inconsistenCy in my view there are not enough sendings off for dangerous play. I have less problem with players brawling than i do with dangerous attacks on players who are in no position to defend themselves ie Lima and Laffranchi last night. Perry should have had at least a yellow and maybe more.

But just because the ref misses one thing you cannot use it to defend another.

If McIlorum had ben standing a toe to toe with Perry and having a fight, fine 10 minutes in the bin to cool them down But the shot on lafranchi was just cold AND DANGEROUS AGAINST A PLAYER WHO WAS COMPLTEELY UNPREPARED.

Yes such a pity he hit him straight in the mush with a stiff arm.
If he wanted to tackle him why not get his shoulder into his abdomen. !!!

I started my post by saying "straight red", not defending him at all.

They have had the "best coach" last few years and never won a gf???

Micky Mc has been one of our most consistent performers this year but does have this stupid side in him much like Hock, they can either win you a game or cost you it at times. Last night was a brain explosion and a cowardly act,

I think Micheal Maguire would disagree with that. Last season was a strange season and a complete one off, Warrington will do the double this season.

TBH, by definition it was red, but in a derby game with emotions running high, close match etc, yellow card would have been more suitable in my eyes. I would hope a more experienced ref would have done that.

Also, it goes out the window when other stuff gets let off. Perry on Lima was late, it was deliberate, it was high.

Therefore it should have been red if he was going to be consistant.

Anyone who watched the Wakefield v Widnes match that Child was in charge off would have seen the ridiculous red card for Paddy Flynn (I think) that cost Widnes the game in my eyes. I'm not saying the incidents are the same, but the OTT reaction was, and it cost sides games.

If that is the future of the officials, looking at some incidents with red eyes, then not bothering with others after handing out a massive advantage then the game will degrade.

I'm not saying what MCM did was right, it was late, but if they are gonna be like that, maybe its time to change the card system to something different. Red Card = 10 mins x amount of yellow cards = ban.

Otherwise for every silly moment sides are going lose a match.

IMO Child should never have been let near a derby match like that. He hasnt got the experience or the cool.

Typical of Wigan fans when their successful team gets beat, blaming everyone apart from their players who missed some godawful one on one tackles for Saints's tries. MMc is an average flat track bully who has nothing but aggression on his side. He is not on the same planet, never mind league, as Tommy as a hooker. You will be better off without him with Smith at 7, though Tommy is still way off match fit. I thought Child had an excellent game. The O'brotherinlaw & Perry incidents were penalties, end of. There is now a culture of trying to outdo each other with hysteria around decisions, not just in RL but in life. OMG.