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| You'd think that getting a red and the team losing would be sufficient punishment, at least one thing i'm noticing is the cop out 'on report' is being used less and the cards are coming out.
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| Just seen it now and Elima should get a ban and MM will get 1 match ban. MM should have got off him but Elima connected with MM on 3 occasions from what i see. But its the RFL Elima will get a caution and MM will get 1 match. How both officials missed what started it i will never know especially as the ref is so close.
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"You'd think that getting a red and the team losing would be sufficient punishment, at least one thing i'm noticing is the cop out 'on report' is being used less and the cards are coming out.'"
Maybe but the ref and linesman missed what Elima did but did not miss 1 punch from MM.
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| Watched it again on SLTV, doesn't seem much in it from Mickeys point of view, so I would hope just 1 match, don't think he will get sending of sufficient. Elima should be up before the panel for the elbows though.
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| I think he held both cards up as it looked yellow and Micky actually sat on the bench before being told to go down the tunnel, but when the ref was putting the card away it was definitely red that was pointed towards the East as I was confused until he went down the tunnel.
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| it certainly looked red from the south
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| Quote ="mr ree"it certainly looked red from the south'"
And the East.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"And the East.'"
Where in the East? Behind the play or infront? It looked yellow to me on the half way line until he turned it round to put in his pocket and MM obviously thought yellow as he sat on the bench.
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| Quote ="Conroy"Where in the East? Behind the play or infront? It looked yellow to me on the half way line until he turned it round to put in his pocket and MM obviously thought yellow as he sat on the bench.'"
I'm on the half way line as well and could see it was red. Few people around me were a bit confused, they were all quite old though
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"I'm on the half way line as well and could see it was red. Few people around me were a bit confused, they were all quite old though
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It defo looked red as he put it in his pocket but as he held it up it looked yellow. Like I say, MM even went and sat on the bench.
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| it was red from the north stand
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| Quote ="fatbaztod100"it was red from the north stand'"
Answers that one then
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"I'm on the half way line as well and could see it was red. Few people around me were a bit confused, they were all quite old though
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I am an owdun but maybe I can explain what may have caused the confusion (Conroy has partially already done this).
If the Ref pulls both cards out of his pocket at the same time and one is Red on both faces and the other Yellow on both faces and holds them together what do you get,confusion.
The Ref holds up the cards and he can see the Red side,MM facing the Ref can see the Yellow side. Just a theory,but as plausible as any other.
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| Quote ="stillinthepast"I am an owdun but maybe I can explain what may have caused the confusion (Conroy has partially already done this).
If the Ref pulls both cards out of his pocket at the same time and one is Red on both faces and the other Yellow on both faces and holds them together what do you get,confusion.
The Ref holds up the cards and he can see the Red side,MM facing the Ref can see the Yellow side. Just a theory,but as plausible as any other.'"
I always thought the red card was oval shaped while the yellow card is rectangle. If I am right this couldn't happen, but it wouldn't be the first time that I am wrong.
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| Quote ="mr ree"it certainly looked red from the south'"
I thought it was green.....................damn this colour blindness !!!
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| Quote ="stillinthepast"I am an owdun but maybe I can explain what may have caused the confusion (Conroy has partially already done this).
If the Ref pulls both cards out of his pocket at the same time and one is Red on both faces and the other Yellow on both faces and holds them together what do you get,confusion.
The Ref holds up the cards and he can see the Red side,MM facing the Ref can see the Yellow side. Just a theory,but as plausible as any other.'"
This could be the explanation but the red side was definitely facing McIlorum, hence why everyone in the South saw that it was red. If he was holding the yellow card behind the red one then it might explain why everyone who was behind the direction the ref was holding it (ie past the 30m line in the east) thought it was yellow.
I was in the south, the ref only showed one card, a red one.
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| Quote ="fatbaztod100"I always thought the red card was oval shaped while the yellow card is rectangle. If I am right this couldn't happen, but it wouldn't be the first time that I am wrong.'"
i think some refs do use the diffrent shaped cards, but don't they also keep the cards in diffrent pockets, when he binned Pryce i'm sure the card came from his front pocket, with MM the ref definitely went to his back pocket.
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| Quote ="OJ"There was a lot of niggling all match, seemed like part of their game plan and it worked. They were at him all match I listened to GMR commentary and Phil Kinsella said Micky Mac's kick was a poor one - he failed to mention that someone had just taken his legs from under him. Was waiting for Gaz Hock to explode in the first half but fortunately he didn't. Apart from being in his face all the time I was pretty sure some of the Bradford players were concentrating on pulling his shorts down which was just nuts but I suppose if you want to niggle someone you'll try anything and others will try the same so the team need to learn to rise above it or it will cost us again.'"
So wigan were caught with there pants down
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| Quote ="spanker"So wigan were caught with there pants down
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Bradford's pants? If you're going to try to make a joke at least get it to make sense - incorrect grammar can change the whole meaning to that intended.
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| The quality of the Bradford trolling has been very poor....
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"The quality of the Bradford trolling has been very poor....'"
The Dire's is worse. You'd think that someone who has only just had a ban lifted would learn, wouldn't you?
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| Quote ="WARRIORCRAIG"This could be the explanation but the red side was definitely facing McIlorum, hence why everyone in the South saw that it was red. If he was holding the yellow card behind the red one then it might explain why everyone who was behind the direction the ref was holding it (ie past the 30m line in the east) thought it was yellow.
I was in the south, the ref only showed one card, a red one.'"
It would be interesting if anyone had a photo from behind the Ref,it may show something.
Even in the Radio Manchester commentary there was confusion,at first they thought it was yellow before changing their minds to red.
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| I was behind the ref and the card was definitely =#FF0000RED.
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| Quote ="WARRIORCRAIG"This could be the explanation but the red side was definitely facing McIlorum, hence why everyone in the South saw that it was red. If he was holding the yellow card behind the red one then it might explain why everyone who was behind the direction the ref was holding it (ie past the 30m line in the east) thought it was yellow.
I was in the south, the ref only showed one card, a red one.'"
i was near the wheelchair ramp, in the east, among the bulls fans....it was yellow from my angle
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| It looked orange from my seat
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