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| Quote ="thepriestman85"The one thing he offers is experience and is one of the very few players who talk at the club.
But he shouldn’t have been resigned for that reason only. There are players at Wigan who have comparable or equal ability to him and play in the same positions as him and that’s before we look at the major injury he’s had.'"
I agree, I think Hansen/J Tomkins/Mossop interchanging at SR with Lockers at loose is fine for me. If we have injuries bring young farrell into the team, with Tuson and others looking to step up as well perhaps.
If we kept Bailey we'd have one of HH/JT/LM missing out every week and I think they are all good enough for first team action regularly.
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| Noble will be wanting experienced players to try and bring stability to Celtic.
I would envisage his signings being similar to his early days at Wigan - Withers, Millard, etc.
Carmont and possibly Bailey would be the only ones to move on a permanent basis.
Season-long loans for some of the younger players seem possible, but I wouldn't worry about losing any of the younger players, such as McIllorum, on a permanent basis
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| Quote ="Glynola"Noble will be wanting experienced players to try and bring stability to Celtic.
I would envisage his signings being similar to his early days at Wigan - Withers, Millard, etc.
Carmont and possibly Bailey would be the only ones to move on a permanent basis.
Season-long loans for some of the younger players seem possible, but I wouldn't worry about losing any of the younger players, such as McIllorum, on a permanent basis'"
I don't know why people think that Nobby would be interested in taking our young starlets on loan, when he wasn't particularly interested in them while he was coach at Wigan.
I suppose a beggar can't be a chooser from his POV, but what about the young lads themselves - would they want to be back under the control of a man who, if the rumours are to be believed, wasn't in favour of using them before?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Sorry if that was how you took my post, it was never intended that way. I'm a big fan of Hansen and I don't think many appreciate how hard he works. I also believe he has a tremendous professional attitude, he certainly is no dummy spitter.'"
Rogues, you still hearing that HH might be bulking up fopr next year at prop?
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| Quote ="LondonRobster"Rogues, you still hearing that HH might be bulking up fopr next year at prop?'"
I've not heard that.
I can see it happening to Mossop though in the next few years.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I've not heard that.
I can see it happening to Mossop though in the next few years.'"
Mossop runs just as hard as any of the props now.IMO he should be bulking up for next season not in a few years
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| I said last season I would have Mossop a game or two at prop, mainly because of Fielden's dire form. I reckon:
2010: A few reserve games, plenty SL games at second row, maybe one or two at prop
2011: No reserve games, bench/starting second row all season with some game time at prop.
2012: Maybe a transition to prop here if Hock returns?? He'd be 23 and have about 60/70 games under his belt.
Of course that's a long way into the future but I'd definitely keep the bulk if I was him
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| Quote ="Grimmy"I said last season I would have Mossop a game or two at prop, mainly because of Fielden's dire form. I see him taking over from Bailey at second row the season after this, then maybe making the move to prop the year after if Hock returns.'"
If Hock returns i'd like to see us use him as a prop, after 2 years out hopefully he's beefed himself up a bit, and whilst he may have lost a bit of handling skill the step up to prop would allow him to just do what he does best, whilst not having to do 80 mins at 2nd row.
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| What Mossop needs more than anything else next year is a good prolonged run in the first team where can build up some rhythm to his game, he was in and out of the team so much last year even on the back of good form, for me another reason why we shouldn't resign Bailey.
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| Quote ="inside_man"If Hock returns i'd like to see us use him as a prop, after 2 years out hopefully he's beefed himself up a bit, and whilst he may have lost a bit of handling skill the step up to prop would allow him to just do what he does best, whilst not having to do 80 mins at 2nd row.'"
You might be right, I'm just not sure that playing out of position would be the easiest way for him to return after so long away. I'm sure handling skills would return quickly in the off season. I reckon match fitness would be the bigger worry, as much as he'll be training now it's no substitute for playing in competitive games every week.
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"What Mossop needs more than anything else next year is a good prolonged run in the first team where can build up some rhythm to his game, he was in and out of the team so much last year even on the back of good form, for me another reason why we shouldn't resign Bailey.'"
I'm sure even with Bailey in the team this year Mossop will get plenty games, injuries are very common at second row and none of the current second rowers are so established that they won't be dropped, unlike the first half of last year when we knew Hock would play every game he was fit for.
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| Quote ="Grimmy"I'm sure even with Bailey in the team this year Mossop will get plenty games, injuries are very common at second row and none of the current second rowers are so established that they won't be dropped, unlike the first half of last year when we knew Hock would play every game he was fit for.'"
Let's say Lockers starts every game at 13 which he will do barring injury that leaves:
Hansen
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Mossop
Farrel
Bailey?
Possibly five players trying to fit into two starting positions with one on the bench doesnt fit for me, especially when Farrel really should be getting first team experience. That's with out adding Tuscon into the mix as well.
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| Quote ="Grimmy"I said last season I would have Mossop a game or two at prop, mainly because of Fielden's dire form. I reckon:
2010: A few reserve games, plenty SL games at second row, maybe one or two at prop
2011: No reserve games, bench/starting second row all season with some game time at prop.
2012: Maybe a transition to prop here if Hock returns?? He'd be 23 and have about 60/70 games under his belt.
Of course that's a long way into the future but I'd definitely keep the bulk if I was him'"
He should be playing prop next year IMO. He needs to bulk up pre season. Hansen could also bulk up. I am sure Wane will get all our forwards running in with some passion instead of Fieldens lazy style.
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| Quote ="inside_man"If Hock returns i'd like to see us use him as a prop, after 2 years out hopefully he's beefed himself up a bit, and whilst he may have lost a bit of handling skill the step up to prop would allow him to just do what he does best, whilst not having to do 80 mins at 2nd row.'"
Its a well known fact that cocaine users drastically lose weight.
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| Quote ="wigan_knight"Mossop runs just as hard as any of the props now.IMO he should be bulking up for next season not in a few years'"
have you any idea how hard it is to bulk up? In 6 months, not a chance. they have over a month off too
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| Quote ="Meyt N Prater Pie"have you any idea how hard it is to bulk up? In 6 months, not a chance. they have over a month off too'"
Rubbish, I've put 2 stone on since July, admitted, its not all muscle.........
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| Quote ="twosevenzero"Rubbish, I've put 2 stone on since July, admitted, its not all muscle.........
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You best get applyin for them trolley pushin jobs at Asda Roy!
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| Quote ="Meyt N Prater Pie"have you any idea how hard it is to bulk up? In 6 months, not a chance. they have over a month off too'"
That's cause you don't do anything at the gym Fordy.
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"That's cause you don't do anything at the gym Fordy.'"
Back in there with a bang now mon
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| Quote ="Meyt N Prater Pie"Back in there with a bang now mon
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I've heard you look like Charles Hawtry when stripped Fordy, this true ??
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| Quote ="twosevenzero"I've heard you look like Charles Hawtry when stripped Fordy, this true ??'"
More Like Gene Autry
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| Quote ="Meyt N Prater Pie"have you any idea how hard it is to bulk up? In 6 months, not a chance. they have over a month off too'"
Jam, Guinness and Kendal mintcake will help.
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| Quote ="Meyt N Prater Pie"have you any idea how hard it is to bulk up? In 6 months, not a chance. they have over a month off too'"
They should comfortably be able to if needed bang on a stone of muscle if they train and eat right, and over the course of the year maybe get another half to full stone on assuming they do not pick up any major injuries during the season.
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