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| Quote ="Odemwingie"According to boots 'n' all the tries we are already world champions
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We are three time World Champions
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| Quote ="Conroy"We are three time World Champions'"
We are not the current world champions though... YET
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"We are not the current world champions though... YET
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Did they call us that?
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| Quote ="Conroy"Did they call us that?'"
He just called us the world champions. This is not true yet, we are not the world champions. We were 17 years ago.
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| i honestly hope wigan kick their back sides.............
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| Quote ="Jukesays"Yes you did
Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"How many did we take to Old Trafford for the GF? Many more than it would take to fill the DW. How much did people pay for their tickets then? More than they need to for the WCC, add in the neutrals that will be there and the fact we still haven't sold out (we may do but I doubt it) [uis really poor.[/u'" '"
In the context that we took many more to OT than needed to fill the DW who paid more for the privilege, not that 25k is poor - understand now?
Quote ="Jukesays"As for taking more than 30k, I'd like to see any official figures you have?
On your point about Leeds crowd being similar to ours, I suppose that % wise then the Wigan public support their club more than Leeds RL then bearing in mind the respective Sizes of the 2 x places?
And if we can attract say 5k above our Average out of the remaining 150k people in Wigan is that Worse/Better than Leeds taking 15k extra out of the remaining 700k?
I'm also pretty sure that we won't see as many "Neutrals" for this game as others have seen on previous occasions for various reasons.'"
You only had to look at the Wiganers everywhere at OT including all over the Stain end to realise the numbers we had that day.
As I've said about three times now but which seemed to be ignored, my original issue is that people seem to want to blame the RFL for the take-up in tickets, I've just showed we've no excuses to blame anyone else, especially when at the moment the number of Wiganers won't be more than the number we've had for a Stains game.
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"In the context that we took many more to OT than needed to fill the DW who paid more for the privilege, not that 25k is poor - understand now?
You only had to look at the Wiganers everywhere at OT including all over the Stain end to realise the numbers we had that day.
As I've said about three times now but which seemed to be ignored, my original issue is that people seem to want to blame the RFL for the take-up in tickets, I've just showed we've no excuses to blame anyone else, especially when at the moment the number of Wiganers won't be more than the number we've had for a Stains game.'"
When I mentioned that you had used the term "Really Poor" you said you had said Nothing of the Sorts - I was pointing out that you had, along with P155 Poor.
I understand what your saying, do I agree with it? No - Do you understand now?
Last Saints game they brought over 5k and we had what? 21k on? So there's not going to be more than 16k on this Sunday for a Fact?
Why do we have to "Blame" anyone?
Have you got your ticket?
I've got Mine, and it appears that over 10% of Wigan's Total population have to. I consider that a oretty good effort, if you don't fair enough.
If only Leeds could have had 70/80k plus at their World Club challenge eh?
And before you say, I'm pretty sure the more Target audience you have, the more chance you have of a larger number of casual take up on top of the Existing fans?
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| Quote ="Jukesays"When I mentioned that you had used the term "Really Poor" you said you had said Nothing of the Sorts - I was pointing out that you had, along with P155 Poor.
I understand what your saying, do I agree with it? No - Do you understand now?'"
I did not use it in the context you claimed I did - understand now (again)?
Quote ="Jukesays"Last Saints game they brought over 5k and we had what? 21k on? So there's not going to be more than 16k on this Sunday for a Fact?'"
And I said A Stains game, not just the last one.
Quote ="Jukesays"Why do we have to "Blame" anyone?'" If you'd bother to actually read what I wrote you'll see I disagree with the one blaming the RFL - perhaps you need to ask that question to them.
Quote ="Jukesays"Have you got your ticket?
I've got Mine, and it appears that over 10% of Wigan's Total population have to. I consider that a oretty good effort, if you don't fair enough.'" Considering the number we took to OT we should sell out no problem.
Quote ="Jukesays"If only Leeds could have had 70/80k plus at their World Club challenge eh?
And before you say, I'm pretty sure the more Target audience you have, the more chance you have of a larger number of casual take up on top of the Existing fans?'"
If only Leeds had an average attendance of 50/60k then? They don't.
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"
If only Leeds had an average attendance of 50/60k then? They don't.'"
So are you saying that there are any Wiganners Not going to this game compared to our "Average" Home support or even say a Derby Game against Saints when we normally have around 14/15/16/17k home supporters?
If they're not then questions should be asked, seeing as it's an RFL event why not ask them? But seeing as the total sales have passed that figure I'm pretty sure they are going.
If they are all going, which I bet 99% are then basically my point stands and the fact that 10-15% of Wigans population look they'll be there on the Night.
I think that's a pretty good effort given many circumstances.
If I was asked to go and Sell a product where 200k people live and get 20k+ turnout & somewhere were 3/4 million live (Nearly 4 times that amount) I would expect to sell more? Is that not a fair assumption? Especially when the Base market starts at around 15k to begin with?
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Next time I think you've picked me up on a point I'll use the term "I didn't mean it in that context" if that's ok?
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You'll also find that I've said numerous times on this thread that I can't believe people are criticising an attendance that we don't even know yet?
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| Quote ="Jukesays"So are you saying that there are any Wiganners Not going to this game compared to our "Average" Home support or even say a Derby Game against Saints when we normally have around 14/15/16/17k home supporters?
If they're not then questions should be asked, seeing as it's an RFL event why not ask them? But seeing as the total sales have passed that figure I'm pretty sure they are going.
If they are all going, which I bet 99% are then basically my point stands and the fact that 10-15% of Wigans population look they'll be there on the Night.
I think that's a pretty good effort given many circumstances.
If I was asked to go and Sell a product where 200k people live and get 20k+ turnout & somewhere were 3/4 million live (Nearly 4 times that amount) I would expect to sell more? Is that not a fair assumption? Especially when the Base market starts at around 15k to begin with?'"
No problem with any of that, but we've had pretty much 20k on for a Stains game in the past and took considerably more than that needed to fill the ground to OT for the GF - hence why (at the moment) the excuses for why we might not fill the ground look a bit lame. Especially when the finger has been pointed at the RFL, the day and time, but not at ourselves.
Given it's the first time we've played in this game since winning in Brisbane in 94, you'd have thought tickets would be like gold dust.
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"No problem with any of that, but we've had pretty much 20k on for a Stains game in the past and took considerably more than that needed to fill the ground to OT for the GF - hence why (at the moment) the excuses for why we might not fill the ground look a bit lame. Especially when the finger has been pointed at the RFL, the day and time, [ubut not at ourselves[/u.
Given it's the first time we've played in this game since winning in Brisbane in 94, you'd have thought tickets would be like gold dust.'"
And heres my point.
Which one of the 14-17k regular attendees of Wigan RLFC (Who I class as Ourselves) are not going? If anything more than 2/3% are not going then I'd be worried (5% at a Push )
The other 5/10/15k have obviously shown by their non-attendance of regular league games etc (Even Saints Derbies coz we only regularly get 15-18k Home fans) that they will pick and choose their games.
Their entitiled to do that, but I'm not going to worry/criticize people who don't regularly attend for not attending when :-
a/ I don't know how many have been sold
b/ I don't know their personal circumstances
c/ We are getting what seems like Way above average crowd for this game
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| Quote ="Jukesays"And heres my point.
Which one of the 14-17k regular attendees of Wigan RLFC (Who I class as Ourselves) are not going? If anything more than 2/3% are not going then I'd be worried (5% at a Push
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The other 5/10/15k have obviously shown by their non-attendance of regular league games etc (Even Saints Derbies coz we only regularly get 15-18k Home fans) that they will pick and choose their games.
Their entitiled to do that, but I'm not going to worry/criticize people who don't regularly attend for not attending when :-
a/ I don't know how many have been sold
b/ I don't know their personal circumstances
c/ We are getting what seems like Way above average crowd for this game
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Nice of Odemwingie to do a runner when the Flak starts flying!
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I'd class ourselves as anyone who supports Wigan including the 30k+ who went to the GF. We'll see what happens on Sunday, but given the obsession with other clubs attendances (even in other sports) on here at times, the defensiveness when it's been turned around onto us is quite amusing.
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| 1815 left kids!!!!
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| Quote ="Owdpopularsider"1815 left kids!!!!'"
Is this including the tickets the RFL has left?
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| Quote ="shambawangy"Is this including the tickets the RFL has left?'"
Nope if we included the RFL ticket left we'd only have 1239 left
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| makes you no less of a fan if you make one game but don't make another.
take my girlfriends grandad for example, he's been a massive fan of wigan for many years but a few years after the move to the (then) JJB stadium had a heart attack and now struggles to go to the matches at all due to health reasons, so he watches all games on sky nowadays. just because he doesn't attend it doesn't mean he isn't a fan nor does it mean we have a pack of glory hunters in amidst our fan base who only turn up when they like and again, they can do that if they wish as it is their choice, whether down to choice or circumstance.
anyone who goes to every game and feels they are a better fan simply because they attend all matches is being a little petty if you ask me.
if you are going to bring up the MM weekend, the RFl shouldn't have popped it smack bang in the middle of the RU cup (whichever one it was - i'm not a union fan) especially considering wales were playing the same weekend.
blame the powers that be, not the fans, whether armchair, pub or attending.
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| This is very puzzling, we have gone from having around 1400 North Stand Tickets available last night down to 750 available this afternoon. When you look closely, the entire left hand side of the North Stand has been bought up in one hit.
Very strange. Good news if sold though!
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| Quote ="MattyB"This is very puzzling, we have gone from having around 1400 North Stand Tickets available last night down to 750 available this afternoon. When you look closely, the entire left hand side of the North Stand has been bought up in one hit.
Very strange. Good news if sold though!'"
Could that be for the coaching camp thing that they were offering tickets for?
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| Quote ="MattyB"This is very puzzling, we have gone from having around 1400 North Stand Tickets available last night down to 750 available this afternoon. When you look closely, the entire left hand side of the North Stand has been bought up in one hit.
Very strange. Good news if sold though!'"
Family ticket for George Carmont?
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| Quote ="MattyB"This is very puzzling, we have gone from having around 1400 North Stand Tickets available last night down to 750 available this afternoon. When you look closely, the entire left hand side of the North Stand has been bought up in one hit.
Very strange. Good news if sold though!'"
I think you should be brave and not check it ever again and have a surprise on Sunday
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| Quote ="Jukesays"And heres my point.
Which one of the 14-17k regular attendees of Wigan RLFC (Who I class as Ourselves) are not going? If anything more than 2/3% are not going then I'd be worried (5% at a Push
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The other 5/10/15k have obviously shown by their non-attendance of regular league games etc (Even Saints Derbies coz we only regularly get 15-18k Home fans) that they will pick and choose their games.
Their entitiled to do that, but I'm not going to worry/criticize people who don't regularly attend for not attending when :-
a/ I don't know how many have been sold
b/ I don't know their personal circumstances
c/ We are getting what seems like Way above average crowd for this game
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Nice of Odemwingie to do a runner when the Flak starts flying!
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Eh I have already mentioned the fact I should not be having such a go before the game but many of my other points still stand. Ticket sales are a problem accross RL, this is what I am talking about.
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| Quote ="MattyB"This is very puzzling, we have gone from having around 1400 North Stand Tickets available last night down to 750 available this afternoon. When you look closely, the entire left hand side of the North Stand has been bought up in one hit.
Very strange. Good news if sold though!'"
Things like this have been happening for weeks, whole blocks just come and go. For all we know the RFL could have 4k tickets left to sell and we all think they have been sold. Who knows?
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