You go on winning trophies? Its honours even since 2010 with 4 GF's a piece. Its honours even in the CC since 2011 with 2 wins a piece. Its honours even in the WCC since 2012 with 1 win a piece. You havent gone anywhere pal.

and neither have we. You do know what the script is the season after Leeds have been in the middle 8's dont you

Talking about rejects. Good luck with your new fullback next year. Escare must me rubbing his hands together with all the game time he's gonna get next season.

You're seriously coming on here laughing at people?

Look at the state of your own club.

Your coaching situation's a total mess. You've got a chairman no-one takes seriously any more. Your playing staff are dire. Your contacts at the top of the game have now been sidelined, so there'll be no more brown paper bag activity.

Laugh all you want, but the joke's on you lot without us even needing to try.

Are you for real? Its like you were actually thinking about Wigan when you wrote this.



Wanes jumped, Tomkins jumped, Batemans jumped, youve got Lam coming for a year then its bye bye Lam, hello Edwards (Lot can happen in a year by the way

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Your own fans are fed up with Lenagan, Wigan play some of the most boring rugby ever seen. Not sure what the contacts/brown paper bag reference means but all ill say is salary. Cap. And Breaches.

I think the jokes safely staying your side of the Pennines pal

wow you picked them 2 years as it helps your argument. Lets go back another 20?

I'd imagine the time to really worry about the direction of a club is when you have to fight against relegation more than once in three seasons.

Go back as far as you want Pieman. Whats your point?

My argument, in response to your fellow "Pie" is that in recent history Wigan are in no more a superior place to Leeds. You havent gone on to anything. You havent dominated anything. No more than Leeds have.

And we all know Rugby League didnt exist before 1996 so dont try that one

We've all had to fight for our Super League status at some point havent we, cough 2006 cough salary cough cap cough.

Nothing to be worried about over here. Id be more worried about our "Mr Wigan Himself" coach jumping ship and 2 of our best players jumping ship, one of who has now jumped twice and old man flanders lasting more than 30% of the season. Lenagan. Worra guy

Leeds don't have anything to worry about? Wow!
I think there's more worries at Leeds about next season than at Wigan.

The Shambles have a shockingly bad player roster and a new coach that doesn't want the job anymore..

That's just for starters..

As someone who lives in the city and talks to a lot of Rhinos fans I can confidently say that our current friend is probably in a minority of one.

Unconcerned about Leeds to be honest. They're a tough nut for us to crack at Headingley, but I can't see them making the play offs over the course of the season, so fairly irrelevant unless we get them away in the cup. London and Salford should be weak enough to keep them clear of relegation. I hope the disparity between their expectations and the reality doesn't result in good young talent released as we did in their situation in the early-mid 00s

We’ll see.



You talk weird.



10,000+ season ticket holders plus walk-ups, Id suggest youre not talking to the right ones. Heres a tip, Id nip back home and listen to what your own fans are saying about “Lenners”, as Ziggy calls him, and the state of Wigan at the moment. Theyre not happy. And thats just the ones on your own board. We all have whinging gits.

You do realise there are no "your own fans" to nip back to, don't you? We are the Wigan fans of which you speak and we're perfectly happy with our lot, thank you. Being champions does that for you.

Mmmmm, your own fans would beg to differ. Look closer.

I am 'our own fans' you numpty! As are many of my friends and family. What on earth are you talking about? Do you think you have some special insight into the minds of the thousands of Wigan fans because you read a few online comments. You are aware that the majority of people who post negative comments aren't even Wigan fans in any real sense of the word, aren't you?

Jeez mate, you need to give it a rest. You're beginning to sound like a Wigan obsessive. Maybe there's not much light at the end of your own team's tunnel so you're resorting to telling us what we think. Weird. Just weird...

I'm sure most are as bored as I am.

Let's try to get back on topic please.

My Dad’s bigger than your Dad. Pathetic

According to one of our Red Vee tinted specs supporters. Gildart was weak defensively, despite not missing a tackle. Williams & Tomkins - Both halves were poor (or were just made to look poor by the Kiwi pair). Only occasionally threatened the line, kicking was generally poor and there was no game control at all from either of them. And the best Bateman - p%%% poor game. Defensively weak, dropped balls, impersonating a statue for the Kiwi's 2nd try. forums.redvee.net/showthread.php ... land/page5

According to one of our Red Vee tinted specs supporters. Gildart was weak defensively, despite not missing a tackle. Williams & Tomkins - Both halves were poor (or were just made to look poor by the Kiwi pair). Only occasionally threatened the line, kicking was generally poor and there was no game control at all from either of them. And the best Bateman - p%%% poor game. Defensively weak, dropped balls, impersonating a statue for the Kiwi's 2nd try. forums.redvee.net/showthread.php ... land/page5

Quote ="Rogues Gallery"According to one of our Red Vee tinted specs supporters. Gildart was weak defensively, despite not missing a tackle. Williams & Tomkins - Both halves were poor (or were just made to look poor by the Kiwi pair). Only occasionally threatened the line, kicking was generally poor and there was no game control at all from either of them. And the best Bateman - p%%% poor game. Defensively weak, dropped balls, impersonating a statue for the Kiwi's 2nd try. forums.redvee.net/showthread.php ... land/page5'" But all the Saints and ex Saints players were good. Go figure?

Quote ="Rogues Gallery"According to one of our Red Vee tinted specs supporters. Gildart was weak defensively, despite not missing a tackle. Williams & Tomkins - Both halves were poor (or were just made to look poor by the Kiwi pair). Only occasionally threatened the line, kicking was generally poor and there was no game control at all from either of them. And the best Bateman - p%%% poor game. Defensively weak, dropped balls, impersonating a statue for the Kiwi's 2nd try. forums.redvee.net/showthread.php ... land/page5'" But all the Saints and ex Saints players were good. Go figure?

Quote ="Rogues Gallery"According to one of our Red Vee tinted specs supporters. Gildart was weak defensively, despite not missing a tackle. Williams & Tomkins - Both halves were poor (or were just made to look poor by the Kiwi pair). Only occasionally threatened the line, kicking was generally poor and there was no game control at all from either of them. And the best Bateman - p%%% poor game. Defensively weak, dropped balls, impersonating a statue for the Kiwi's 2nd try. forums.redvee.net/showthread.php ... land/page5'" There's still a public enquiry going on in St Helens as to why God - because it could surely only have been God! - denied them all the silverware they were entitled to last season. So I suspect it's a bit much to expect them to give any credit at all to the handful of Wiganers who did so much to help England defeat a very strong and belligerent New Zealand team and create a real buzz about the current series.

Quote ="Rogues Gallery"According to one of our Red Vee tinted specs supporters. Gildart was weak defensively, despite not missing a tackle. Williams & Tomkins - Both halves were poor (or were just made to look poor by the Kiwi pair). Only occasionally threatened the line, kicking was generally poor and there was no game control at all from either of them. And the best Bateman - p%%% poor game. Defensively weak, dropped balls, impersonating a statue for the Kiwi's 2nd try. forums.redvee.net/showthread.php ... land/page5'" There's still a public enquiry going on in St Helens as to why God - because it could surely only have been God! - denied them all the silverware they were entitled to last season. So I suspect it's a bit much to expect them to give any credit at all to the handful of Wiganers who did so much to help England defeat a very strong and belligerent New Zealand team and create a real buzz about the current series.

Most that I have spoken with can’t accept that Gildart was chosen over Percival. I had a right laugh with a bloke that said Bennett is a terrible coach who for some reason ignores the best players. It was really quite entertaining. Perhaps this is where their ‘entertainers’ title comes from?

if only we'd have had the full compliment of every English qualified Stain player in the team we would have won the series before kicking off for the first game (or maybe "dreamed" we would have won)

Don’t sink to their level. England did well whether that be Gildart, Makinson or (insert player who plays for another team).

Yes we could be better in some areas, some players were not as good as others but I don’t think anyone played badly.

Beating the team that beat Australia 2 weeks before justified Bennett selections, I didn’t agree with them all and still don’t, I’m entitled to my opinion however there’s a reason he is England coach and I’m not.

O'loughlin played 12 minutes. I think he got injured doing that kick because he fell awkward and was limping after. It would of been a great kick had he managed to sit it up in the field of play but he got too excited and over cooked it