I think it'll be either Wakey or Cas, Wakefield being the more likely of the two. I think/hope it'll be Widnes coming up.

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There comes a point where my sympathy for a proud club being badly treated by the idiots running our game runs out. And you just reached it!

I think Brian Carney summed it up perfectly on Boots N' All. The best fourteen sides should be promoted, saying right now before the applications have been looked at that a Championship club will be promoted at the expense of a Super League club is ludicrous - what if all fourteen clubs in the SL were better than all the Championship clubs? Farce

you're right in a sense but its only the same as promotion and relegation where a worse team could come up than the one going down it just doesn't happen every year. Surely it'd be very difficult to claim to be measuring the two teams by the same standards without having a playoff between the top and bottom so many teams of each league.

I don't really understand the point of having a Northern Rail Cup or Grand Final win as an essential criteria. Ok it's a good yardstick for on-field success, but it automatically rules out clubs with a genuine case for a Super League license application before they can even apply

It'll be Widnes in definately. The RFL are never going to admit it, but I think they're well and truly embarrased by not giving them a license last time and are desperately counting the days to when they can officially announce that Widnes are in. They'll then sit back on their collective fat 'arris and expect Widnes and the entire RL heartland community to give them a huge pat on the back and say well done, what a good decision when in actual fact everyone will be saying you friggin incompetent baboons, you should have done that last time.

Once that has happened some trainee tea boy will say excuse me Mr Lewis, but you haven't said who Widnes will be replacing. They will then have a hastily arranged meeting, come up with a half d, lame excuse to expel a club and the whole farcical merrygoround will begin again.

wakey and cas out. Widnes and fax/barrow in

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Can't understand why anyone would want to get rid of Cas, I've loved every time I've been to Wheldon Rd, where else do you get such fantastic one liners as 'if that's ten yards he's not fitting my Carpet'

Thankyou Wigan fans for supporting Widnes and that is why i actually like your fans and club.Your Chairmen has been very supportive about Widnes and i count your club as my second team.

It has been disheartening spending many years in the Championship and i know our attendances will average 7-8000 if get into Superleague.If Ste Oconnor and Stobarts back us up, and with our Youth set up improving we will have a great future.I just wish we was told now, as i really miss playing Wigan,Wire and Saints.

So if Widnes are given a place in super league do they both share a stadium ? :S

It's not for next year, it's the year after isn't it? Or am I just wrong...

Correct.

But it's not a fair comparison. Criteria like attendances, finances & so on will always favour the existing SL sides.

But currently, don't Widnes have the edge in most of those areas of a couple of SL teams? Shows how much of a farce it was to overlook them the first time.

I know if Widnes got a licence our finances will be better than a few in Superleague clubs,such as Quins,Crusaders,Salford,Wakey,Cas and maybe Bradford now.We have good backers with Stobarts,and i am confident we will do ok if get the nod.As you all know Widnes u18s Academy is in Group A with your mob.



Higher than some Superleague academies, and the u16s went unbeaten and 12 have been signed up for a furthur few yrs.I can not see Widnes wasting money on this if not been given the nod.

how can they say that without seeing the submitted documents.....crazy

I would expect they have more or less decided before the applications.

Don't know about finances, but they're averaging just over 3k attendance (compared to 6.8k for Salford, the worst SL club). That's by far the best in the Championship (next best is Halifax at 2.2k), and would increase massively, of course, if/when they get into SL.

must be illegal, as otherwise why submit anything or meet any criterea

Probably. But how else could they know, unless they are devaluing the franchising arguments on purpose.

I thought Salford would average less than 6.8k tbh. Quins too?

they do, that figure includes both home and away games. quins average 3.4k and salford 4.2k at home.

What if the stadiums are being built by the april 2011 deadline?

I just don't see how the RFL can say at this time that one will be dropping out, whats the point of putting together a application if the RFL have already chosen?

IMO it will be sad for the game to lose cas or wildcats, they are rugby league towns, i doubt any of them teams will recover from being dropped out.

Surely the RFL have to look at the applications in april when they have all been put in.

we are not losing a team, they are being relegated. widnes have a strong case to say they should have been in this time around, and i think can put together an even stronger case than a couple of the current SL teams.

if it were up to me i would give the teams 3 years in the wilderness who leave it untill the very last min to get their stadia built. they have had 3 years to get a move on with it. ever since the applications were put in last time they have been saying they will build a new ground. if they havent made a move by now (like saints have) then why should we keep them in when we have a team like widnes who can bring alot to SL.

i would like to see the RFL be ruthless to these teams and give them another 3 years to get it right then come back when and apply again when all is finished rather than them just promising they will do it and never quite getting around to it.