Why this thread has drifted off topic I don't know but Fui Fui Moi Moi is not the type of prop forward we need. He is another impact prop and having 2 of them in the same team is pointless. We need a grafter someone that will run their blood to water and lead from the front. Andy Lynch, Luke Bailey, Petero Civonaceva (sp) would all fit that bill.

On another note I don't like the way Wigan attack with a pitch split with a 1st receiver either side of the pitch.

I prefer a 1st and 2nd receiver of both halfbacks. Like Burrow/McGuire Edwards Greg.

With Smith and Sam this would work.

Can see Pryce going if he doesn't prove his fitness. If not him then Goulding going as I don't see the need for both to cover

That side looks very strong IMO
I think a house prop, solid partner for Sam (6 or 7 would do), a top centre to play with Roberts

Luke Bailey would be ideal, Petero would want too much and to say he is getting on is an understatement

As for the half back Dobson would be fantastic, Orford has been mentioned, didn't someone mention Richie Myler (is he off contract?) if he is I think we would be stupid not to go for him

IMO him and Sam will be the future England half back partnership in around 3 years or so. I know there is a big question of experience but we we would have other leaders on the field to help them. I know we would have to wait a season or 2 for them to develop but I for one think it would be worth the wait. Stability is often mentioned on here and they could be our half back partnership for the next 10 years. Dare I even say another Edwards and Gregory



We should still have a lot of money left on the cap so a centre in the Cooper/Gasnier/Inglis mould should be targetted

Absoulutely spot on.

how can you put them 2 in the same sentence as Petero Civoniceva he is world class grafter them 2 aint good enough lace his boots know what your saying thou we need someone who is a born learder and who you know will give you a shift when he is on the field Jamie Peacock Petero Civoniceva Brent Kite or Steve Price

Petero Civoniceva was a world class player I accept. However I don't think we'll get as much out of Petero Civoniceva (32) as we would Andy Lynch (29) or Luke Bailey (29).

Don't under estimate just how good those two players are. I think they could offer a lot more than Petero Civoniceva in terms of years of service to the club and also I think they'd be a far cheaper option than Petero Civoniceva.

Bang on

People are talking about Myler to partner Sam but I would sooner see somone slightly older with a little bit more experience, similar to how Greg was a few years older than Edwards.

I can't help but think Dobson would be prefect. Still a young man but has a few good years under his belt.

Petro is an awesome prop, but considering his age, and wage he would want I feel he might not be the best option. I really think the cap is best used spread out a little more.

Hopefully if Fielden, Prescott, O Carroll and Feka come to we might not feel the need for a big money prop. I also feel Hock has the potential to move up to Prop. Considering the depth in the backrow replacing him if he were to move up to prop wouldn't be an issue.

Not for me, that'd be a waste of Hock's quality outwide to get the ball out by an offload to a fast centre/winger. Inside he's not as effective.

Don't forget we have Ben Davies (18/19) who's an England U21 International coming into the first team, along with Mossop who has the potential for Prop/Second Row also.

Moving Hock to Prop IMO would not work out as well as you think

I agree

Hock has great mobility, agility and speed to move him up to prop he would be forced to put on weight taking these qualities away from him

However I think later on in his career when he naturally loses some of these attributes I think we should move him to prop then but for now I think it would be a waste

IMO he'll turn out similar to Bryan Fletcher. Big, powerful and good with ball in hand. As he slows down and adds a bit more weight later on in his career then maybe if we're desperate to move him to prop.

Possibly he could play the Flecter type role. Start at second row and move to prop when needed. I think he can be effective as a prop.

God I miss him

Are you joking?

Fielden?
He works his socks off consistently week in week out. Easily our best prop IMO, Noble needs to start playing him for 80mins again.

Hearing from people inside the club, he is one of the most hard-working and dedicated professionals there. So what it doesn't happen for him sometimes, but when teams score the majority of tries against us when he is on the bench, is no co-incidence.

Baileys work rate also goes un-noticed IMO, not a world beater, just a hard worker.

Thing that goes against them is that there salaries say they should be world beaters

Hardly their fault though is it? The previous regime were all too eager to throw money around.

No I'm not saying it is mate

I like Fielden, think he's a very good player

Thing I have against Bailey is I think we have 4 better backrowers than him all on less money and I don't think we need 5 when we have the likes of Mossop and Farrell in the reserves

Beat me too it

I hope not. overrated pen machine.

I agree RE Myler. Dobson is contracted till 2010 so until then forget it. IMO Matt Orford would be the perfect signing for us for 2010.

I think we need someone similar to Lam. Good knowledge of the game and a leader for the backs. That, along with Sam Tomkins alongside, would see us play far better than we currently are.

Fielden?? Come on. Average at best.

i agree.i have always liked fielden as a player.even when things werent going right for him he would always work hard.same with bailey.i also think part of our defensive problem is because of feka.his lack of fitness puts players outside him under pressure.players are doin hes defensive work for him.i know smith has missed some shockers this season but fekas (and hock to a certain extent) inability to get set in defence is having a knock on effect on players around them.

Well said. I couldn't agree more. If we don't drop people when they play badly, then they will not give everything to improve.

'I also feel Hock has the potential to move up to Prop. Considering the depth in the backrow replacing him if he were to move up to prop wouldn't be an issue.'


OH. MY. GOD.

Some people on here really don't have a fu*king clue - I even heard one bloke say that we should put pryce at 6 because 'if his brother can do it so can he.' I'm still waiting for someone to recommend putting fielden on the wing, feka at full back and roberts/smith at prop...