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| Quote ="Stu M"Absolute bollox. You’re the worst one arrogantly and patronisingly comparing our win to Buster Douglas. One of the worst analogies I’ve ever heard.
We didn’t do it at home with 25,000 fans behind us and a ref who got it wrong. Let’s not forget his incorrect ball steal call when he forgot what the rules were as Penrith were pressing. It was an incompetent display by both him and Kendall.'"
Are we only allowing the result to be looked at through anything going against Penrith then? That the only way the game could’ve gone was to Penrith and that some questionable 6-again calls and high shots going unpunished on Wigan players don’t count?
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| Wigan fans- “Where are all the Saints fans?”
Saints fan makes a post…Wigan fans pile in….. is it any wonder?
It didn’t ruin my night, I had a great time at Hudds with my eldest lad making memories and watching an outstanding Saints performance.
The only thing that did temper my mood somewhat was Utd losing to Fulham.
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| Quote ="DannyT"Are we only allowing the result to be looked at through anything going against Penrith then? That the only way the game could’ve gone was to Penrith and that some questionable 6-again calls and high shots going unpunished on Wigan players don’t count?'"
There’ll always be refs calls going either way but that Wardle try won the game for Wigan and he needed an Uber to get to the line from where he was tackled. It was an awful decision compounded by the VR not having the balls to tell him it was way short of the line.
Have a look at any of the clips on social media and tell me that it was a try.
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| Quote ="Stu M"Absolute bollox. You’re the worst one arrogantly and patronisingly comparing our win to Buster Douglas. One of the worst analogies I’ve ever heard.
We didn’t do it at home with 25,000 fans behind us and a ref who got it wrong. Let’s not forget his incorrect ball steal call when he forgot what the rules were as Penrith were pressing. It was an incompetent display by both him and Kendall.'"
You've yet to tell me the analogy is ridiculous. You never should have won, but you did. Seems pretty spot on to me. That's unless you've got an inflated opinion of your team (which hoi obviously have).
Still no well done too. Keep being bitter...
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| Quote ="sergeant pepper"You've yet to tell me the analogy is ridiculous. You never should have won, but you did. Seems pretty spot on to me. That's unless you've got an inflated opinion of your team (which hoi obviously have).
Still no well done too. Keep being bitter...'"
We were underdogs without question, not sure we were the same odds with the bookies as Douglas was to beat Tyson. Not by a long way.
And again how can you slate Saints fans for going missing on here but then they aren’t allowed to give an opinion because it goes against the party line.
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| Quote ="Stu M"There’ll always be refs calls going either way but that Wardle try won the game for Wigan and he needed an Uber to get to the line from where he was tackled. It was an awful decision compounded by the VR not having the balls to tell him it was way short of the line.
Have a look at any of the clips on social media and tell me that it was a try.'"
If that try hadn’t been given, there’s about 35 mins or whatever that would’ve been different. It’s just sour from you to pick that as the only contributing factor to us winning. I’ve seen plenty of screenshots where there’s an argument it was a try as well. It’s contentious but crying over it won’t get you anywhere.
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| Quote ="Stu M"We were underdogs without question, not sure we were the same odds with the bookies as Douglas was to beat Tyson. Not by a long way.
And again how can you slate Saints fans for going missing on here but then they aren’t allowed to give an opinion because it goes against the party line.'"
Who said you aren't allowed an opinion? You've just made that one up.
There's having opinions, I had one you don't agree with, and being that salty to not even say well done. I don't think your achievement is what you'd have us believe, but I still said well done.
All you've done is b!t©h. Is it that hard to say (regardless of the what you think about the try) that we might have somehow played well?
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| Quote ="sergeant pepper"Who said you aren't allowed an opinion? You've just made that one up.
There's having opinions, I had one you don't agree with, and being that salty to not even say well done. I don't think your achievement is what you'd have us believe, but I still said well done.
All you've done is b!t©h. Is it that hard to say (regardless of the what you think about the try) that we might have somehow played well?'"
As I’ve said the only reason I’ve come on is because it was intimated I had gone missing. So I’ve given my thoughts. Quite why you are seeking my validation I’ve no idea. It’s in the history books as a Wigan win despite the controversy.
What I find nauseating now is the comments that Peet is coming out with. I was a big supporter of him initially, a talented young English coach who spoke the truth.
However now it seems that only his players are mates with each other, only his club does community work, only Wigan players are in the trenches with each other. It’s as though no other SL club has a winning culture and it’s starting to grate.
It actually suits in a way as we are flying hugely under the radar. There was even a poster on here that said HKR will win a Grand Final before we do again.
I just hope we can make the play offs based on that.
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| The Bitterness is Growing - Love it
Was getting sick of everyone liking Peet as well
If Wardles try hadn't been given and the 1 on 1 ball steal hadn't been penalised Penrith would deffo have won by 30 or 40 or more
I also feel sorry for the Aussies, because they deffo don't whinge unnecessarily. They deffo don't like the cards all stacked in their favour and they deffo Don't react badly to losing
Having witnessed in person their 2008 world cup final loss they are the epitome of Good sports
Overall a very good day, just wished we'd lost to keep everyone else happy.
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| Quote ="Stu M"As I’ve said the only reason I’ve come on is because it was intimated I had gone missing. So I’ve given my thoughts. Quite why you are seeking my validation I’ve no idea. It’s in the history books as a Wigan win despite the controversy.
What I find nauseating now is the comments that Peet is coming out with. I was a big supporter of him initially, a talented young English coach who spoke the truth.
However now it seems that only his players are mates with each other, only his club does community work, only Wigan players are in the trenches with each other. It’s as though no other SL club has a winning culture and it’s starting to grate.
It actually suits in a way as we are flying hugely under the radar. There was even a poster on here that said HKR will win a Grand Final before we do again.
I just hope we can make the play offs based on that.'"
He is only talking about what his guys are doing and how the culture has changed from almost to being winners,surely he is allowed that.I will let him know that he is beginning to grate on you,I am sure he will be upset at the thought.
One point I do agree is that Wardle's try wasnt over the line it was infact on the line dragged over by the Penrith player.
You will make the playoffs maybe 3rd as I predicted last year.
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| Quote ="Jukesays"The Bitterness is Growing - Love it
Was getting sick of everyone liking Peet as well
If Wardles try hadn't been given and the 1 on 1 ball steal hadn't been penalised Penrith would deffo have won by 30 or 40 or more
I also feel sorry for the Aussies, because they deffo don't whinge unnecessarily. They deffo don't like the cards all stacked in their favour and they deffo Don't react badly to losing
Having witnessed in person their 2008 world cup final loss they are the epitome of Good sports
Overall a very good day, just wished we'd lost to keep everyone else happy.'"
Also like to add about the Aussies being good sports ,just like Saints fans in my view win or lose they are fantastic in their sportsman behaviour
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| Quote ="Jason65"He is only talking about what his guys are doing and how the culture has changed from almost to being winners,surely he is allowed that.I will let him know that he is beginning to grate on you,I am sure he will be upset at the thought.
One point I do agree is that Wardle's try wasnt over the line it was infact on the line dragged over by the Penrith player.
You will make the playoffs maybe 3rd as I predicted last year.'"
I think it was on the line, and no amount of snapshots on social media will change my mind, or "very next angles showing it was short" when Penrith players had pushed him back.
Whether there's an argument for the double movement , but even then I wouldn't say 100% it was as the wrestle from the Penrith players almost seemed to contribute to the ball sliding backwards onto the line.
The 1 on 1 ball steal was wrong, but so was the Field no penalty for the High tackle
Winners are Grinners
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| Quote ="Stu M"As I’ve said the only reason I’ve come on is because it was intimated I had gone missing. So I’ve given my thoughts. Quite why you are seeking my validation I’ve no idea. It’s in the history books as a Wigan win despite the controversy.
What I find nauseating now is the comments that Peet is coming out with. I was a big supporter of him initially, a talented young English coach who spoke the truth.
However now it seems that only his players are mates with each other, only his club does community work, only Wigan players are in the trenches with each other. It’s as though no other SL club has a winning culture and it’s starting to grate.
It actually suits in a way as we are flying hugely under the radar. There was even a poster on here that said HKR will win a Grand Final before we do again.
I just hope we can make the play offs based on that.'"
Here's the thing, you're the one who's been crying and trying to get Wigan fans to buy into the fib that Saints pulled off the greatest sporting achievement known to man.
Like I said a few weeks ago, the lady doth protest too much, methinks. Add in the obviously salty attitude around our win and it's lovely.
World Champions again, 5* on the badge and a win Vs a far superior side to both Wigan and the one the self proclaimed "greatest sporting side in the history of the world" played last year.
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| I remember an Aussie ref ruling out a perfectly legitimate McGilvarry try for England in a world cup semi because it was the last minute and they would have got beaten.
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| Again.. why call out Saints fans for not being on here and then jump in mob handed to disagree?
Did you seriously think that I was going to come on and congratulate you like some of the other clubs fans have done?
I doubt anyone would’ve jumped up at Dodds DG last year and I fully understand that. Wigan want Saints to lose every game unless it benefits Wigan and vice versa.
I wouldn’t have it any other way. You can still respect the club, fan base, youth production etc at the same time. The 2 things aren’t mutually exclusive.
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| I said before the game I'd much rather have an Aussie ref, and I haven't changed my mind on that. Moore may well be the best English ref, but it puts him on the spot, to say the least.
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| Quote ="Stu M"Really not sure why anyone would think a Saints fan would’ve been on here last night.
I deliberately kept off as I knew emotions would be high and posters having had a few scoops.
The fact remains that the Wardle try was the biggest impact on the game. There is no way he got the ball over the line. Strangely just after Kendall said he’d viewed all available angles the next replay showed it was short.
Not sure how Moore can categorically give that as a try but not the May one at the end. FWIW I didn’t think that was a try either but it’s still strange that Moore gave one without the other. I’m not at all surprised that the Aussies are going mad.
I actually think this could be the end of the WCC as a concept. I’d be very surprised if their champions travel here again with an English ref.
You’ll all cite sour grapes but you can’t accuse Saints fans of not coming on and then just tear apart what they say.
And the poster that said any other SL would’ve conceded 50 against Penrith last night is laughable. Clearly forgotten about a certain team that won it in Australia without having played a SL game first.'"
I don’t understand the opinion that Wardle doesn’t get it to the line. He absolutely does but the question mark is if it’s a double movement or not to get it there. He drags it in towards him but the try happened right in front of us and the ref sent it up as a try because his view is initially blocked and he runs around the bodies and can then see it is on the line at that point. Hand on heart, I wouldn’t be happy if that was given against us but all this talk of him not getting it on the line at all is wrong.
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| Quote ="Stu M"As I’ve said the only reason I’ve come on is because it was intimated I had gone missing. So I’ve given my thoughts. Quite why you are seeking my validation I’ve no idea. It’s in the history books as a Wigan win despite the controversy.
What I find nauseating now is the comments that Peet is coming out with. I was a big supporter of him initially, a talented young English coach who spoke the truth.
However now it seems that only his players are mates with each other, only his club does community work, only Wigan players are in the trenches with each other. It’s as though no other SL club has a winning culture and it’s starting to grate.
It actually suits in a way as we are flying hugely under the radar. There was even a poster on here that said HKR will win a Grand Final before we do again.
I just hope we can make the play offs based on that.'"
You know - I might be wrong but I think there could be a touch of bitterness in this post...
'Quite why you are seeking my validation' - aren't you the same poster who came on here time after time complaining that Wigan fans weren't validating your win last year? And be honest now
The onus is not on Wigan or any rugby team to get refereeing decisions right. We got a fortunate call, every club get calls that go for you and some that go against you - that's the reality of our sport with it being officiated by human beings who are as fallible as the rest of us. As previously posted, the decision did not decide the game - there is no logic in simply removing 6 points from Wigan's FT score as the whole game plays out differently if the decision is different.
Anyway 5 times.
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| Quote ="Stu M"Again.. why call out Saints fans for not being on here and then jump in mob handed to disagree?
Did you seriously think that I was going to come on and congratulate you like some of the other clubs fans have done?
I doubt anyone would’ve jumped up at Dodds DG last year and I fully understand that. Wigan want Saints to lose every game unless it benefits Wigan and vice versa.
I wouldn’t have it any other way. You can still respect the club, fan base, youth production etc at the same time. The 2 things aren’t mutually exclusive.'"
I think everyone on here begrudgingly congratulated saints last year.
Personally i couldnt care less whether our far superior victory gets the approval of any fan. We are the greatest RL side in history and that is a fact
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| Quote ="sergeant pepper"Here's the thing, you're the one who's been crying and trying to get Wigan fans to buy into the fib that Saints pulled off the greatest sporting achievement known to man.
Like I said a few weeks ago, the lady doth protest too much, methinks. Add in the obviously salty attitude around our win and it's lovely.
World Champions again, 5* on the badge and a win Vs a far superior side to both Wigan and the one the self proclaimed "greatest sporting side in the history of the world" played last year.'"
So there you go. You’re a happy man. You don’t need me to tell you well done so really not sure why you’re reacting so childishly about it.
And a far superior side without Crichton and Luai playing away from home
I’ll give you that Edward’s was missing
I’ll have a pint of what you’re on
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| Quote ="Stu M"As I’ve said the only reason I’ve come on is because it was intimated I had gone missing. So I’ve given my thoughts. Quite why you are seeking my validation I’ve no idea. It’s in the history books as a Wigan win despite the controversy.
What I find nauseating now is the comments that Peet is coming out with. I was a big supporter of him initially, a talented young English coach who spoke the truth.
However now it seems that only his players are mates with each other, only his club does community work, only Wigan players are in the trenches with each other. It’s as though no other SL club has a winning culture and it’s starting to grate.
It actually suits in a way as we are flying hugely under the radar. There was even a poster on here that said HKR will win a Grand Final before we do again.
I just hope we can make the play offs based on that.'"
Wowzers Stu, you’re better than that. Peet hasn’t said Wigan are the only club doing those things has he?! The only thing that has changed your opinion on Peet are the shiny things he’s taken from the E Cig Stadium and brought over to Wigan. He’s the exact same bloke apart from that.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Wowzers Stu, you’re better than that. Peet hasn’t said Wigan are the only club doing those things has he?! The only thing that has changed your opinion on Peet are the shiny things he’s taken from the E Cig Stadium and brought over to Wigan. He’s the exact same bloke apart from that.'"
100% spot on
He hasn't said any such thing, certain people opinions of Peet will have changed due to results that's all.
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| Well I’m not spending all night fighting a losing battle but at least you can’t accuse me of going missing now even if you don’t like what I say.
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