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| The lads regressed since going to Warrington. Must be good being that crap and being paid that much money.
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| I feel sorry for Williams , getting booed by the Warrington fans . He isn’t a bad player , he’s playing in a very poor team .
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| I admire George in a way. He is concrete proof that players need Wigan more than Wigan need them. It’s an honour and a privilege to play for this club and something you should never give up just to earn a few extra quid. We should never ever go away from that because literally nobody is worth it.
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| He’s must be embarrassed he didn’t come home
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| Quote ="Brick with eyes"I feel sorry for Williams , getting booed by the Warrington fans . He isn’t a bad player , he’s playing in a very poor team .'"
He was appalling tonight.
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| Quote ="Brick with eyes"I feel sorry for Williams , getting booed by the Warrington fans . He isn’t a bad player , he’s playing in a very poor team .'"
I agree with your last sentence but there's no doubt that he's coasting and the Warrington fans know that.
P.S. I had a PTSD flashback to the Adrian Lam era with that Powell interview - 'we trained well', 'in a good place', 'heading in the right direction'.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"I agree with your last sentence but there's no doubt that he's coasting and the Warrington fans know that.
P.S. I had a PTSD flashback to the Adrian Lam era with that Powell interview - 'we trained well', 'in a good place', 'heading in the right direction'.'"
The players don’t like Powell, even the ones he brought from Cas don’t like him but couldn’t turn down the money they were offered.
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| Quote ="NSW"He’s must be embarrassed he didn’t come home'"
Tough, he made his bed he must lie in it
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| He is no Andy Greg but to be fair who is?
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| Quote ="jonh"The players don’t like Powell, even the ones he brought from Cas don’t like him but couldn’t turn down the money they were offered.'"
This is the Warrington problem. They have lots of money but don't seem to be able to spend it wisely.
George is a classic example of a player with a price-tag inflated way beyond his actual level. What he did for Wire tonight was exactly what he used to do for us: the odd flash of something good, but mostly nothing at all, lots of promising moves ending without result through untargetted Hail Mary kicks.
Darryl Powell isn't far off that either. One good season doesn't make a quality coach. Whatever he did that year, he's never been able to replicate it again. I'm not sure he even knows what it was.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"This is the Warrington problem. They have lots of money but don't seem to be able to spend it wisely.
George is a classic example of a player with a price-tag inflated way beyond his actual level. What he did for Wire tonight was exactly what he used to do for us: the odd flash of something good, but mostly nothing at all, lots of promising moves ending without result through untargetted Hail Mary kicks.
Darryl Powell isn't far off that either. One good season doesn't make a quality coach. Whatever he did that year, he's never been able to replicate it again. I'm not sure he even knows what it was.'"
I will never tire of seeing Powells utter despair, will he be allowed a full rebuild of Wire? Adding two impact low minutes props wont be the answer.
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| I wonder if those on here, who told us Williams was a marquee level player, still think the same?
I've always thought he was half decent, but nothing special. He certainly wasn't worth marquee status during his time with us & it's laughable to think about the money he's on now.
The big question now is - how long before he f's over Wire? The rat has done it to every club he's played for so, like Zak, it's only a matter of time.
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| Warrington have a good squad of players not playing as a team and have rumours of unrest in the camp.
Enjoy it while it lasts as they will get better, just as Leeds have done.
Don’t forget, next year will be their year!
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| Quote ="Trainman"Warrington have a good squad of players not playing as a team and have rumours of unrest in the camp.
Enjoy it while it lasts [uas they will get better[/u, just as Leeds have done.
Don’t forget, next year will be their year!'"
I'm not sure that's a given.
They've had a good team on paper for quite a few years now, but several of their best players have got old in Wire colours without tasting real glory. They keep spending big but there's never any real sign of improvement. This year they've gone the other way.
As for Leeds, they may have got better, but they've got a long, long way to go before they can even stand in the shadow of the Sinfield generation.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"I'm not sure that's a given.
They've had a good team on paper for quite a few years now, but several of their best players have got old in Wire colours without tasting real glory. They keep spending big but there's never any real sign of improvement. This year they've gone the other way.
As for Leeds, they may have got better, but they've got a long, long way to go before they can even stand in the shadow of the Sinfield generation.'"
They’ve got some talent in their youth coming through and if handled correctly will add a lot more than some of the dross they’ve paid money for. Problem for them is I don’t think anyone believes they can handle that talent correctly.
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| I wonder what George is thinking right now.
After Wire and his performance last night then watching Wigan this afternoon.
One thing he will know is that Waney is looking for a 7 for the World Cup.
George will know how his form is going and he will see how Harry Smith's form is.
MOM v Wire, MOM in the Semi and not very far off MOM in the Cup final.
IMO Harry is the form 7 in SL right now, certainly the best British scrum half.
All that will have gone through George's mind this past few weeks..
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| I wonder what George is thinking right now.
After Wire and his performance last night then watching Wigan this afternoon.
One thing he will know is that Waney is looking for a 7 for the World Cup.
George will know how his form is going and he will see how Harry Smith's form is.
MOM v Wire, MOM in the Semi and not very far off MOM in the Cup final.
IMO Harry is the form 7 in SL right now, certainly the best British scrum half.
All that will have gone through George's mind this past few weeks..
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| I would tend to agree that Smith is the form 7 in the SL. But, up against the Aussies? Gale looks past it, though, Williams is struggling in a poor side, Who else is there? Back to Lomax and Widdop?
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| Quote ="moto748"I would tend to agree that Smith is the form 7 in the SL. But, up against the Aussies? Gale looks past it, though, Williams is struggling in a poor side, Who else is there? Back to Lomax and Widdop?'"
How about Jackson Hastings
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| Quote ="hatty"How about Jackson Hastings'"
How about him?
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| Not for me. Call me old fashioned but unless you have serious English credentials then you shouldn't be considered for selection. If we aren't good enough to beat Australia then im sorry but we just aint good enough. Hastings is as Australian as Michael Parkinson is a Yorkshireman, I am a bit bored of these things they find to qualify for eligibility. His nans Australian dog once chased an English cat blah blah blah. No ta. Morgan Knowles should be excluded too as should any player who plays for another country at senior level. You can't be Welsh one week and then English the week after. Harry Smith is the form half in this country right now and there is nobody close to him. Right now in June he is one name on the sheet. Who he should partner is still up for grabs. Pryce was putting his name in before suspension and Dodd was playing well too. I am a firm believer in picking the players in form regardless of experience. England football teams did this for years and got nowhere. Southgate has given the young in form players a chance and they have flourished (not that im interested mind)
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| Quote ="Pie_Eyter"Not for me. Call me old fashioned but unless you have serious English credentials then you shouldn't be considered for selection. If we aren't good enough to beat Australia then im sorry but we just aint good enough. Hastings is as Australian as Michael Parkinson is a Yorkshireman, I am a bit bored of these things they find to qualify for eligibility. His nans Australian dog once chased an English cat blah blah blah. No ta. Morgan Knowles should be excluded too as should any player who plays for another country at senior level. You can't be Welsh one week and then English the week after. Harry Smith is the form half in this country right now and there is nobody close to him. Right now in June he is one name on the sheet. Who he should partner is still up for grabs. Pryce was putting his name in before suspension and Dodd was playing well too. I am a firm believer in picking the players in form regardless of experience. England football teams did this for years and got nowhere. Southgate has given the young in form players a chance and they have flourished (not that im interested mind)'"
Australia beat us for years flaunting these rules
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| I’d probably look at Tomkins in the halves and Welsby at 1.
Solves the problem of accommodating them both, it’s not ideal though.
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| People don't complain (much) when half the England cricket and rugby union teams are Saffies or other foreigners.
I don't see why we need set ourselves higher standards than them.
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