Just found this on RFL site


PASS OUTS:
A pass out/return system will be operated on both event days allowing spectators to move freely to and from the stadium bowl – there is no limit on the number of times someone is allowed to pass out and re-enter.

Spectators leaving the stadium bowl with the intention of returning may do so but MUST first ensure that they have a hand stamp applied upon initial exit; if there is no evidence of a hand stamp re-entry will not be permitted. Hand stamps will be applied by stadium stewards. Dedicated exit and re-entry gates on each level will be used to facilitate this operation. Different coloured hand stamps will be used for each level each day.

It is important that match tickets are not discarded; tickets need to be produced for re-entry if using the pass out system. Re-entry to the stadium bowl will be on production of both a hand stamp and relevant match ticket.

Fantastic, thank you

Lockers is still an outside chance of playing according to an interview with him on the love rugby league site.

No point taking any sort of risks but if he's fit that would be a real boost.

With all due respect the reason you hear that is because there's some truth in it. It's remarkable that Leeds fans go on about Wigan's 'foul play' when Jamie Peackock led with the elbow not once, but twice during that match alone and, not only didn't get penalised, but didn't even get spoken to! You also committed more than your fair share of head shots (as picked out by the commentary team on occasion) and our play the balls were much slower than yours; not because of some fitness issues or an imaginary inability of our players to stand up less quickly than yours, but because yours were more adept at holding down than ours. Yet in Leeds fans eyes we were the main guilty party in all of these offences! If you seriously think that your players went through an entire game of that intensity (up until that time the toughest and quickest game of the season by any 2 teams) only committing one offence then either 1) Your team is made up of angelic supermen or 2) you're being extremely one-eyed!

Now, don't get me wrong; I've posted elsewhere that niggle and playing the game at the margins is what makes a good team great and I applaud Leeds for doing just that. However please don't be so naïve as to think you're somehow being hard done by when other supporters considering Leeds get away with more than most. If we ever go a game of that intensity only conceding one penalty I promise you I won't even need to watch the match to know we got away with a few!

Slow PTBs can often occur when you get dominated in the forwards as we were. If they can regularly win the collision, put numbers into the tackle and turn the player over in defence and we're not managing to do the same because they have momentum and stronger runners they're bound to get quicker PTBs.

Or to put it another way, more adept at holding down....

All part of the game. When our team does it it's good technique. When opposition do it it's holding down.

Its called controlling the game mate


You win the collision and dominate your man at the PTB which goes a long way to snuffing out the next attack.
Like I said, I don't like talk of referees as I believe you are always in control of matters. If Wigan had a problem with Leeds using a slow ruck then its their own fault for not winning the collision.

every coach from juniors upwards will talk about winning the collision and dominating the ruck. That's all part of being a good rugby team not a skilless way to cheat the opposition like you make out. We do it plenty ourselves, but in this game we couldn't as our forwards were beaten. No point looking for excuses!

Hang on a minute! If you're going to put words in my mouth at least give them some semblance of truth! Please point out where I said it was 'a skilless way to cheat the opposition' or indeed anything remotely similar. In fact I said the exact opposite ('being able to play at the margins is what makes a good team great' and 'I applaud Leeds for being able to do so') However, as Pemps points out quite succinctly, one set of fans 'good technique' is the opposition fans 'foul play'. We lose many things when O'Loughlin is out but I've always maintained that one of the most important is his unrivalled ability to control the speed of the play the ball. Guess what though? Opposition fans complain that he 'gets away with holding down' and 'is a cheat'.. QED

On a personal note, you need to wind your neck in mate. I strongly object to being spoken down to in the way you seem to have taken to recently. I've been a Wigan supporter for well over 20 years and a season ticket holder for most of that. I certainly don't need you to condescendingly explain the basics of the game. Did you think you think you were giving some great insight or something? I suggest that, before you post your lols and great insights in future, you actually learn to read and, more importantly, understand the posts you're answering to. ''More adept at holding down' was a compliment and nowhere did I suggest that it was skilless or outside the rules. Moreover, nowhere was there any intimation that I didn't understand the principles involved. I certainly didn't require your great insight into one of the most basic aspects of the game; less so delivered in the condescending way you chose to. Now, if you'd just explain what that ball-thingy is that the players seem to carry I'd be most grateful

See above.

I have no idea if Wigan had a problem with Leeds slowing down the ruck. Personally, I had no problem whatsoever.

tl;dr

Wigan are very good at it.

One round the legs, 2 take the upper body to hold them upwright and wrestle, giving the defensive line time to set, then they twist and put the attacker on his back, then move off 1 by 1, slowing the PTB down massively. Textbook.

That's not a criticism of wigan, it's excellent technique.

Pathetic.

Indeed mate and ditto Leeds.

A good coach can see in the rules/laws things that others cannot. I often think that they need to be as good a lawyer as a coach. Any lawyer will tell you that depending on the spirit of a law will always be challenged and found wanting. We then change the law/rule/instruction and the whole process starts again.

On another matter I am really looking forward to the game. Looking at the squad I realise that no one really expects us to win but I still expect every man in cherry and white to front up.

I cannot overemphasise just how impressive the boys were tonight.

Today, I shall mostly be withdrawing my worry that we can't win owt wi' a bunch o' kids

Dudson has got to stop the late push/shoulder to the back. That is going to cost us one day.

Excellent game plan from the Pies. Wane outsmarted a superior team with a tactical masterclass. Saints did the same when they beat us at Langtree. I hope McDermot comes up with a plan to counter such tactics for the next time we meet. Well done you guys.

What a refreshing post. Having looked around the forums last night (Virtual Terrace especially) not many people commented on the positive aspects of the match, of which there were many. Instead most decided to pull Wigan apart due to the 5-10 minute spell of madness!

Something about Leeds v Wigan matches that still have that 80's feel about it (ie - fast open rugby, shades of brilliance, hard and agressive defences with a bit of biff thrown in)!

May there be many more like that!

Slightly OT: Does anyone know if this game will be replayed on Sky or anywhere? I wish i'd have recorded it for a family member who missed it, as i dont think the highlights will truly reflect the effort the lads gave.

I'm in a similar predicament, can't find it on the schedule for a repeat though

I said last week that I thought we were superb at Hull FC, and very few of you agreed. Most put it down to Hull being poor. IMO this weeks performance against Leeds was fashioned in Hull last Friday where in the second half McIlorum moved to LF.