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| What about protection for the referees when Tomkins bags them for every decision that goes against him????
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| Quote ="on_the_charge"What about protection for the referees when Tomkins bags them for every decision that goes against him????'"
That time he decked Phl Pentham was uttelry despicable, I agree. An elbow straight under the chin. And what about that kick he planted right in the middle of Richard Silverwood's face; the guy looked like had a stud-pattern tattoo afterwards. What about that time he chucked Ganson through the window of the video ref suite when he dared disallow a try?
It's a brave ref who penalises Wigan these days.
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| Quote ="on_the_charge"What about protection for the referees when Tomkins bags them for every decision that goes against him????'"
If that was to happen Wellens would be banned every week.
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| To be honest Tomkins was a joke against Leeds and should have been sin binned.. I do agree Paul Wellens can be equally as bad at times...
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| Quote ="on_the_charge"To be honest Tomkins was a joke against Leeds and should have been sin binned.. I do agree Paul Wellens can be equally as bad at times...'"
If you'd just tell him to stop impersonating a penguin I'd be happy.
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| Quote ="on_the_charge"To be honest Tomkins was a joke against Leeds and should have been sin binned.. I do agree Paul Wellens can be equally as bad at times...'"
At times? I know Sam has an attitude, but at least he has the quality to go with it. Wellens on the other hand, that guy just moans at the Ref because he moves slower than a slug in treacle.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Saints supporters have very short memories, they are convinced Rugby League began in 1996.
Sorry L
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Yes we do suffer with short memorys, it's a good job you are there to remind us.....
oh wait a minute,
I forgot.
Rogues
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Yes we do suffer with short memorys, it's a good job you are there to remind us.....
oh wait a minute,
I forgot.
Rogues
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Justice for the Rogues!
Free the Rogues one!
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Why not have a no tackle rule for Tomkins, that way he does not need to milk the penalty when he gets the ball, it's just automatic the second he is tackled. Will save everyone time.'"
Idiot
Quote ="FearTheVee"Oh, boo hoo.
Good god, is this RL we're talking about?'"
Yes rugby.... not boxing, kung fu, judo, karate, kick boxing or a footy match between Leeds and Chelsea circa 1971
Quote ="DANN"Firstly its the lack of proper punishments that is SW's gripe.
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Exactly. I paid something like £20 to watch England v Australia, somebody can remind me of the year.. possibly 2004? England kicked off and Adrian Morley cleaned out an aussie in 7 seconds. The match was over, the test series was over in 7 seconds. That England side could have won that series but becuase of an head high tackle it was ruined. Roll on several years later and its now acceptable to rip Sam Tomkins head off( and Ryan Halls- J Thurston- no penalty try, no red card, no punishment). Wane has made a good point, its illegal, dirty and it has no place in this sport.
Even yawnion is trying to clean its act up.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Why not have a no tackle rule for Tomkins, that way he does not need to milk the penalty when he gets the ball, it's just automatic the second he is tackled. Will save everyone time.'"
Will also save your players needing to find an excuse as to why they go nowhere near him. Again.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"Will also save your players needing to find an excuse as to why they go nowhere near him. Again.'"
I was going to say. Don't Saints already have one of those.
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| Quote ="Conroy"I was going to say. Don't Saints already have one of those.'"
Just Paul Wellens
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| Quote ="Bluenosewarrior"At times? I know Sam has an attitude, but at least he has the quality to go with it. Wellens on the other hand, that guy just moans at the Ref because he moves slower than a slug in treacle.'"
"Put your arms down Paul, put your arms down, PUT YOUR ARMS DOWN PAUL!!"
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| Quote ="WARRIORCRAIG""Put your arms down Paul, put your arms down, PUT YOUR ARMS DOWN PAUL!!"
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Luckily for us he decided to try and tackle with his arms down as well
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| Quote ="Conroy"Luckily for us he decided to try and tackle with his arms down as well'"
That's my 2nd favourite "picked up off the refs mic" quote after Josh Perry's "Yeh but he slapped me first!" on Good Friday.
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| It's the protection of Sam the refs need to be looking out for.It's the little bit of afters the players are putting in after the tackle is made.
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| Sam like many top players draw attention and Wane needs to consider this before spouting off. Wigan have had more than their fair share of hard men . You say Saints fans have short memory's. Well I remember one terry Newton (rip) dolling out some pretty tough justice to one mr. Long . And your mr. Hock,s no choir boy. We all want our players protected not just Wigan.
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| Quote ="Dark secret"Sam like many top players draw attention and Wane needs to consider this before spouting off. Wigan have had more than their fair share of hard men . You say Saints fans have short memory's. Well I remember one terry Newton (rip) dolling out some pretty tough justice to one mr. Long . And your mr. Hock,s no choir boy. We all want our players protected not just Wigan.'"
Two posts and two moans, great start...
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"Two posts and two moans, great start...
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2 posts with this avatar. Thousands over the years, would you like to comment on the post?
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| Quote ="Dark secret"icon_lol.gif 2 posts with this avatar. Thousands over the years, would you like to comment on the post?'"
No..
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"No..'"
Thought not
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| Quote ="Dark secret"Sam like many top players draw attention and Wane needs to consider this before spouting off. Wigan have had more than their fair share of hard men . You say Saints fans have short memory's. Well I remember one terry Newton (rip) dolling out some pretty tough justice to one mr. Long . And your mr. Hock,s no choir boy. We all want our players protected not just Wigan.'"
Yeah, but Wane's point is that players are not getting punished for fouls on Sam, unlike Newton and Hock who (rightly) got lengthy bans for their offences.
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| Quote ="Dark secret"icon_lol.gif 2 posts with this avatar. Thousands over the years, would you like to comment on the post?'"
So you're posting on here under a new username because handrags is banned? That's an instant site wide ban for both accounts.
I'll spare handrags that fate but this account is gone.
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| As a fan of Warrington and Rugby League I have alot of respect for Wane as a coach as there's no denying he's doing a great job at Wigan so far. But coming out in the press and calling for a specific player to be protected because he's being targeted is just embarrassing to our sport.
So some French player caught Tomkins high in a game. Wane complains to the RL, they tell him to nicely go away so he uses the press to get back at them. You'd expect this sort of rubbish from the likes of Gary Schofield but not from the coach at one of the leagues top clubs.
Wane should just go the whole hog and change his name to Rafa and start spouting 'facts.'
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| When I listened to SW all I heard him say was that Tomkins should not be tackle outside of the rules of the game, (My interpretation of his words) not that he should have any special treatment just for him. Whatever any Wigan player, or any other player, in the past or today did, or does has nothing to do with what he said. I didn’t hear him say that the rules of the game should only apply to Sam. No player should run the risk of having his career ended by foul play, and that’s all he was saying. Those who think that it’s a “game for hard men” and he should take what’s given, as just a part of the game. Would they be of the same opinion if it was them who were set for a life in a wheelchair?
Rock 'n' Roll.
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