True. I don't know how true the 'Home sick' rumours are, but for me, he won't be a great loss.

Would be interesting to see if at this stage people would sooner have Riddell, or his cap space to help sign players in other positions.

I think at least 95% would say the cap space tbh but it's unlikely he'll leave imo.

We best hope he comes good. I thought last week was a step in the right direction.

Well I would.

Offloading

Bailey
Coley
Smith
Phelps
Goulding
Riddell

Could really generate some good cap space to bring in some quality players.

I've seen flashes of ability. But he doesn't do anything like as much work off the ball as Mac, and he certainly doesn't have Tommy's scooting prowess.

You don't get a decent rep in the NRL for nothing. But he wouldn't be the first to come here assuming it'll be so easy that he doesn't even need to get fit.

That's the thing, many in the NRL said he had a 1 great game in every 5.
Also he's always had fitness and weight issues, hence why St George got shut.

I remember him at both Dragons and Eels, never really stood out, had the occasional good game but never was someone I would have wanted at our club.

I thought Danny B at Leeds would have been a better signing despite being older. He was a natural leader (capt of NSW and Aus) and was quicker round the play of the ball. Had good experience which our younger players could have benefitted from.

agreed

BUT

i think he would have cost considerably more. with hindsight (given piggy's p**s poor form, we should have kept mickey

Pity Wigan didn't recognise the potential of Tommy as a 9 and McC coming through. I think they can both be better than Piggy and Micky given a good run both at 9 on the interchange.

Agreed

Smith looks like he's leaving, I dont think Pryce is anywere near good enough now to play 6, we still need a 6, ( IMO Sam looks like a good 7 ) and, in my opinion 2 new props !!

After watching Origin I'd take any of there props!


If I lived in a a dream world probably Petro and Bailey!

you are the weakest link, bye bye

Or in other words you've realised that you've made yourself look like a right tool and don't have a comeback.

Trying to justify a players abilities by the amount of trophies he has won is just ludicrous.

The history of the game is littered with great players who won very few trophies, and crap players who won loads.

Ade Gardner has probably lost count of the number of medals he has won. Do you have him in your list of GB's greatest ever wingers?

Conversely, great players such as Garry Schofield played for years, and didn't win too many trophies.

Your argument is stupid, in fact, it may be the weakest link.

Add to that list the ability of Ainscough or short sighted nature of signing Roberts on a 4 year deal! I think he will come good, but you have to be a pretty special player to justify a 4 year deal and he does not fall into that category.

Crazy signing.

YOU ARE WRONG!

where did i state that he was crap due to the amount of trophys he has won?

i said if he is that good how come he has only won one trophy.

the fact is, the goombah's on this site rattle on about Terry coming back an d steering us to glory, if this is true, how come he has only won one trophy

I really would stop now if I were you pal

why, theres nowt good on tv

Bang on.

Terry Newton - tough call. Say if this was 2seasons ago, then Yes I would definately have him back.

Now - lets face facts, he's injury prone, shoulders are dodgy, knee's are going. But he is still a fantastic player - when he's on his game.

If he became available for cheap, I would be happy to sign him as a player - otherwise stay well clear.

Isn't that the same thing.

Sorry mate, but whether there is anything good on the telly or not, I suggest you go and stand behind it.

You are not the weakest link, you are the missing one.

Because teams win trophys, not single players! Newton played well in an underperforming Wigan side, therefore he didn't win many trophys. If Celtic signed Jonathon Thurston next season do you think they'd win the super league?

Having said that I wouldn't sign him, because we already have too many hookers, if anything we should try and swap Riddell for a half back to replace Smith if he goes or a prop to replace Fielden, who went missing after 2006.

See ex-Liverpool full back Phil Neal.

The truth is somewhere in between yours and BBB's ideas but Ellis & Peacock certainly didn't "carry the pack" and Ellis seems to be doing fine in the NRL.