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| Quote ="I8pies"You are right ..... it is a small ground .... and it takes a visit from us or Saints to fill it for you .... remember your fans only turn out in numbers for Wembley
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You want to go to the new Wembley it's lovely been there a couple of times i'll pass the details on if you require.
Might take visits from away fans to fill it but it ours and we don't have to bow down to football who get less support than yourselves.
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| Quote ="partridge"You want to go to the new Wembley it's lovely been there a couple of times i'll pass the details on if you require.
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I'd appreciate the directions for Wembley thanks .... to return the favour I'll give the directions for the Halliwell Jones so you can go one day soon
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| Cheers that will be great.
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| History books will give you little credit if you don't win the Grand Final. By belittling the play-offs, you sound like you are already conceding defeat. People will remember the Challenge Cup winners and the Grand Final winners.
I agree that the top eight is too many. The old top six format was better, where you could win one game to get to the Grand Final. The current format is there to protect the bottom half, not reward the top half, as there would be too many meaningless games half way through the season for the bottom five or six clubs. For example, had you won tonight, it would have been ludicrous that you could be denied Old Trafford by losing to the same team again in two weeks team. As it happens, you can dump them out, because Saints are bound to pick Wire.
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| Quote ="Wellsy"It didn't feel must win tonight. The crowd have shown that. I didn't turn up thinking, 'if we lose tonight it could cost us our whole season'
If most people are thinking that then the attendnace is no surprise. I was more up for the Wire home game. I felt more gutted after that than I do tonight. =#FF40FFThe League is still the be all and end all for me, no matter how much they jazz the Premiership trophy up.'"
No one remembers the league leaders shield winners only the grand final winners
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| and the Challenge Cup winners
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| Quote ="TF and the wire"and the Challenge Cup winners'"
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| Quote ="Gandy"No one remembers the league leaders shield winners only the grand final winners'"
Says who? I will remember watching a fantastic season of RL played by Wigan rewarded with a trophy whatever happens next. In contrast we have in the past few seasons got to the semi final after some very poor league campaigns and I for one do not think winning three or four games in an end of season knock-out makes up for being short changed over 27 rounds. Cups are one off games and the GF is a cup competition.
The idea you can be poor for a whole season yet this can all be forgotten if you win a short knock-out competition has always been an example of the emperors new clothes syndrome at its best. I can't beleieve people fall for it. Unless you watch every league game and don't give a stuff about any of the results then the league is an important competition. And if you really don't give a stuff about the league why bother going at all? Save your money and only watch the play offs. And just for the record I posted the same thing in 1998 on Usenet when we won it.
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| I thought it was disappointing to be honest.
Good following by Leeds on Sunday night though.
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| I'm not familiar with the pricing structure at Wigan - how does the average price of a 2010 season ticket for Adults, Concessions and Juniors compare to the price for the Leeds game yesterday? Is the price the only factor or do the club run other regular season incentives such as freebies?
I know it will never happen but the most useful data clubs could publish would be match ticket revenue per game. It is the most important and telling statistic.
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| Quote ="ABP'"I thought it was disappointing to be honest.
Good following by Leeds on Sunday night though.'"
Serious? I reckon it was just short of 1000.
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| If you go by the history though, playoff crowds have never been supported well and have always been lower than the original league game. Look at the crowd at Hull on Sat night compared to the league game.
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| So the crowd at the game was announced as 12,500 yet the official reported crowd was 9,987?
Are the gate receipts split 50/50 between Wigan and Leeds?
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| Quote ="Pemps"So the crowd at the game was announced as 12,500 yet the official reported crowd was 9,987?
Are the gate receipts split 50/50 between Wigan and Leeds?'"
I thought gate receipts of al play off games go into a big pot and each side gets an equal cut.
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| Yes Leeds speccies don't like travelling do they? oh and a big thank you to all the flag collectors i hope you did very well with the collection, the flags look great in the stadium.
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| Quote ="Coventry Warrior!"Serious? I reckon it was just short of 1000.'"
It was an equally, if not worse turnout by the natives of Wigan, with plenty of spaces across the three "home" stands.
Anyway, who gives a toss about how many fans travel across the Pennines. Given that you're the one with the bee in your bonnet about it, perhaps you could enlighten us? It's not our job to fill your ground and the evidence will show that Leeds didn't need the extra support last night.
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| Quote ="SaintJames"I'm not familiar with the pricing structure at Wigan - how does the average price of a 2010 season ticket for Adults, Concessions and Juniors compare to the price for the Leeds game yesterday? Is the price the only factor or do the club run other regular season incentives such as freebies?'"
The only freebie season ticket holders get is a free ticket to an early challenge cup round if at home. There are incentives like the time the club just about filled the north stand v Quins with cheap or free tickets to Heinz employees.
For season ticket holders there is a concession of £3 off the price of a play off game if you book early enough. I got mine today on-line for £23 plus £2 booking fee. That is for one adult and one junior so normal price for an east stand play off ticket is £12 junior and £17 adult as opposed to £9 and £14 with the discount. I think its quite steep after a seasons support. Spoke to one chap on leaving on Friday who said it was going to cost him another £80 this week to watch us v HKR.
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| Best supported team in the league. FACT.
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| Sportig Life is wrong - attendance is 12117 on the official Wigan site.
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| if you ask me - and i' haven't read half of this topic - but a home play off tie is a BONUS home game for the club / owners / whatever. any home tie in the CC or play offs isn't part of the clubs initial financial plans at the start of the season surely as there is no way to guarantee them before a ball is kicked at the start of the season.
why not charge half price tickets to all home fans and maybe the same, if not a little discount for the away support and get it rammed? even if it was 12k last night that is still a very poor attendance if you ask me considering the importance of the game.
why on earth i got random seats via the website when i booked online in the middle of nowhere in the west stand, albeit in the middle of a group of leeds fans as well, is beyond me
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| Quote ="Rol"Sportig Life is wrong - attendance is 12117 on the official Wigan site.'"
It's not sporting life. It's the press association that will have got it wrong. They feed most media outlets like Sporting Life who takes its reports from them and it just rolls around to everywhere incorrectly.
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| Quote ="Gandy"No one remembers the league leaders shield winners only the grand final winners'"
Everyone can remember the league winners. If you love RL enough to remember the GF's you love it enough to remember the league.
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I bet ive gone and got one of them wrong now! haha! But seriously, that period where Saints dominated deserved to yield more than one actual Championship. Come on be honest, even when Leeds won the GF, everyone still treated Saints as the best/no. 1 team. Why would you treat a 4 game tournament over the evidence of a 27 game tournament? No one in thier right mind would.
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| Quote ="Dougy"Quote ="Gandy"No one remembers the league leaders shield winners only the grand final winners'"
Everyone can remember the league winners. If you love RL enough to remember the GF's you love it enough to remember the league.
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I bet ive gone and got one of them wrong now! haha! But seriously, that period where Saints dominated deserved to yield more than one actual Championship. Come on be honest, even when Leeds won the GF, everyone still treated Saints as the best/no. 1 team. Why would you treat a 4 game tournament over the evidence of a 27 game tournament? No one in thier right mind would.'"
I posted a similar topic this morning and was told it was all 'sour grapes'. Glad to see that some people still value the full season with all its complications over a glorified Premiership which for some reason is 'more important'. I repeat - if Hull KR* go all the way and win this after gaining just 20 odd points all season are all of us expected to say that they are the true champions? Somehow I think it will be a tumbleweed moment for Rugby League.
* No disrespect intended to Hull KR, they are just an example. I actually admire their progress and coach in particular.
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| Quote ="piemuncher"I posted a similar topic this morning and was told it was all 'sour grapes'. Glad to see that some people still value the full season with all its complications over a glorified Premiership which for some reason is 'more important'. I repeat - if Hull KR* go all the way and win this after gaining just 20 odd points all season are all of us expected to say that they are the true champions? Somehow I think it will be a tumbleweed moment for Rugby League.
* No disrespect intended to Hull KR, they are just an example. I actually admire their progress and coach in particular.'"
Cheers for the compliment Morgs as done a great job for us okay were not there at the minute 2 more seasons and team improvement then think we will be winning trophies, am dreading playing Wgan next season got an awesome team and are going to be very hard to beat..
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