BED NOW!!! You have school in the morning!!!

I've said he's a good superleague player(if the game was in good shape he should never be a 4 time dream team member mind) and along with O'Loughlin easily in the top 2 loose forwards in the league.

Doesn't say much for the league though.

A Huddersfield fan mentioned to me that Wild should be in ahad of both Sinfield and O'Loughlin in a thread on the VT.

I decided to check out the stats for Wild on the superleague website and was shocked to find that they're very average tbh. I suppose stats don't tell the full story but apart from tackles made he's way down on the vast majority of stats in comparison to Lockers, Sinfield and plenty of other backrowers.

He's a solid superleague player but Dream team standard? Not a chance imo.

and what are the odds of Sam getting man of steel this year? My St Helens supporting mate wants a fiver on it.

I can't find any prices on the internet but i would be hugely suprised to see Sam win it.

He's nailed on for young player of the year but Man of Steel will go to Brett Hodgson, Morley or James Graham imo.

Another note to Dave, Sam started 9 of the games even whilst Tim Smith was here and a number of games on the bench. Smith started 7 of them and when Smith wasn't playing he was in the reserves due to his poor performances, not because of fitness. How dare Noble be wrong in playing Sam more than Smith even when he was here

BLOODY HELL M.R.!!!!! Now you have gone and confused things by using facts... You should know better.. Shame on you....

sinfield...........he gets it every year for just turning up

But O'Loughlin didn't do any of those things you mention, and this thread is about Sinfield v O'Loughlin v Others.

Anyway, you're on shaky ground critising Wigan players for dodgy antics with the jailbird history of a couple of Leeds players!

Graham's absence from the Dream Team would suggest to me that he won't be getting Man of Steel.

Completely different voting system.

Man of steel is now voted for by the players, the dream team is voted for by the press.

Well that's something I didn't know.
Thanks for putting me straight on that one.
Still don't think he'll get it

RIP Patrick Swayze.

Hodgson favourite imo.

Phil Bailey has voted for him if the Wigan website is anything to go by.

Fingers crossed... that's where my tenner went.

On a side note Phil Bailey also voted for Amos Roberts as 'Longest in the Showers' but they wouldn't take my fiver off me at the bookies when i tried to put that one on

I've noticed Dave O has gone into hiding on this thread, maybe he's been taking defensive lessons off Tim Smith

No way should Hodgson be MOS.

Why not?

He's a big part of the reason why Huddersfield have been so strong this season.

He's the clear favourite and rightly so.

Yeah, but he doesn't play at Headingley.

MOS.. for me is between

Morley
Graham
Senior

I think they'll save Cunningham next year so my guess is Senior.

If Hodgson doesnt get it this year it will be almost as laughable as when Barrett didnt get it.

Another example of the massive gulf in class between Superleague and the NRL.

You trying to say Super-sub Roby didn't deserve it?

It wouldn't be in that league but i'd have him as 'slight' favourite.

Graham must be a shot even though he missed out on the dream team. The guy has broke the record for metres made in a season by a disatnce and is just outstanding imo.

The fact that he gets little support from the other props at Saints makes him all the more impressive.

what do you actually get for getting in the dream team

He will end up like Fielden though.

You should see league freaks comments on Graham, it's very funny.

Graham is the best prop in the world.