Something I was thinking earlier...

Have the players who we have brought in this season disrupted the way we play?

Hoffman has already showed he is a quality player and a very good signing but we have an abundance of 2nd rowers.

Lima so far has spent more time banned than playing.

And finally with Finch, we have seen glimpses of what he can do, but so far plays seems to stop or lose momentum when he gets the ball.

No doubt these players have added to the strength of the squad, but maybe there's more to this. Suppose we will only truly find out in October...

You sound like a Hull KR fan.

Level playing field? You're apparently a Leeds fan, but clearly know nothing of the history of your own club. You have embarrassed yourself.

Level playing field?? was that in 2001 when wigan were allowed to spend 1 million more than the rest of superleague because of the massive wage bill??
Or in 2007 when Wigan spent an extra £222314 over the cap to survive relagation???

Saints fan talking about a breach of the salary cap. How ironic!

A Saints fan talking about salary cap breaches





You're either a really poor troll or your knowledge of RL can be written on a postage stamp.

Fielden crossed my mind last night too. Does make you wonder.

I feel, Gleeson made Goulding look good.

We definately need a organiser @ hooker, we need another top class centre to replace Glesson and perhaps its time we brought Pyrce back from Harlequins.

The team needs a bit of a kick and if there is some issues left over from the Gleeson senario then they need to be aired in a behind the doors team meeting and we need to move on. Because the home form is nothing short of sh@t and has been for a bit (in big games), and with a packed house & Saints coming in 2 weeks we could get another kicking.

Not knee jerk, just worried.

Might it be fair to say that the intensity of that recent Wire/Wigan game may have taken a little bit of oomph out of both sides??...



Certainly, from a Wire point of view, it appears we are struggling to raise our game mentally, after what was a pretty outstanding effort at your place...Also, a few guys are obviously struggling stamina-wise.

I noticed something similar in your game with Leeds, and I presume you performed with the same lack of energy last night too?

The effort from Marsh tonight was outstanding, if more experienced members of the team had shown half of it, then we would have been ok.

Still think he should be a winger rather than a centre, as I think he's got higher potential than Goulding in the long term, but never seems to want to pass. He does have one valuable asset that can't be coached - raw pace.

He's right though. That team is crying out for a halfback to take control - Leuluai is never a Scrum Half - as soon as he went to Dummy Half the whole pace of the game changed, an I just don't get why Maguire persists in playing him at 7.

I know Finch is new to the team, but I really expected more from him last night. Our lacklustre performances the last few weeks can be attributed to Deacon's absence IMO - without him no-one is stepping up to organise things, and our most creative player is stuck back at Full Back.

Where did I mention Goulding?

Garbage. Watch the game again, first 15 mins Wigan were all over Leeds (four clean breaks at least). Granted we never converted and the middle part was terrible (because he don't have anything on the last tackle) but Leeds were made out to be world beaters by Sky's commentary team when reality was it was a more even game than it looked time wise for dominance in the game. We did rob them blind but still....

Cheer up guys, you've got us next week.

I reckon we could keep your U18's to a 24 point deficit.

Better than ours. We haven't won at home this season. Thinking of giving up my home season ticket and buying an away one!

some of your players played in a very mediocre performing wigan team you had a good season last year,now they will be panicking ,reverting to type.
The pressure is on, now teams cant wait to play against Wigan.You have been found out,you need to come up with something

Sam out of fullback for me, reasons why - every team know now hes going to be on the end of the move and are finding it easy to slide with the ball and then hit Sam just as he recieves the ball. As it showed last night when he went into the line hes got the kicking game close to the line which Tommy hasnt and i think were too predictable now, we was calling what was going to happen before we did it. 1 last reason for me is i think hes going to get hurt on kick returns.

Daryl Goulding needs catching practise, 2 last night dropped, 2 vs Hull dropped and probably more ive not remembered off the top of my head.

Actually I don't think there are many more. I don't think it's a coincidence that Tomkins, Roberts, Charnley and Goulding have all started to look weak under the high ball. Catching kicks has a lot to do with confidence and concentration and our outside backs don't seem to have much confidence at the moment.
Goulding was never great under the high ball, he'd barely been tested when he started out as a winger because he'd always played centre so never had to deal with kicks. The fact that he went onto the wing and started to deal with them well (after a shaky start at Salford) is likely to have given him confidence to deal with them. Start to drop some catches and it becomes quite hard to silence the doubts in your mind.

He played OK but gave far to many penalties away. He needs to cut out the head high stuff.

I think last nite was disgraceful I think we looked lost in attack and shakey in defence on the wings. we have scraped along the past 5 games we wasn't even good when we beat hudds

Sack the coach!!!!





Sell tomkins





Bring back agent Milward. Them where the days.

I guess that performance this afternoon has wiped your air of pessism well away!

A record 19 titles suggests we've had more than just one

What did I say?






As have Leeds it seems.

You for real? Wigan turned full time pro because, yes you guessed it, Leeds did. By that time we had already won 4 in a row Challenge Cup's and back-to-back Doubles. We turned full time pro off the back of the prize money we were bringing in