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| Hunswick isn't a coach , he's a strength and conditioner ! He worked for Brian Noble at Salford , and did nothing special. Not sure what the fuss is about him ?
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| This is just an unfounded hypothesis by a journalist.
The simple fact is that Edwards saw his stock rise and has done all he can to capitalise on it.
Good luck to him and good riddance. I don’t want him anywhere near the club.
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| Quote ="100% Warrior"Admittedly and rather naively I don’t know a great deal about him other than what other posters have said so I’ll just have to take people’s word on him. But as the saying goes “there’s no smoke without fire” the smoke being he’s a top drawer coach, I’ll agree he is someone we should be looking to recruit regardless of whether it’s under Lam/SE/A.Nother.
I’m in agreement about the club direction. I personally feel like we’ve been too soft over the years starting with the “come back to us if it doesn’t work out” policy with the only player it genuinely working out for was ST. We’re now at that stage with SE, essentially the message we’re giving is “if you can’t get a better deal in RU, come to us”. It looks desperate and certainly not what one of the biggest names in RL should be doing. You wouldn’t see the Man Utd’s/Liverpool’s/Barcelona’s of this world even remotely consider it. Look closer to home nor would you see Warrington or Saints do it either. I’m sure it’ll get dressed up by the club as loyalty but to us fans and opposing fans it looks like a desperation tactic.'"
All of those clubs could buy Wigan Warriors and all of its assets and not even notice it on their end of year accounts.
We're a small fry sport even when compared to RU.
As a matter of principle we should have told Edwards to off the moment that interview was released - that's what makes us look desperate.
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| According to IL yesterday, we are still waiting on Edwards to make his decision...
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| Quote ="Bigredwarrior"This is just an unfounded hypothesis by a journalist.
The simple fact is that Edwards saw his stock rise and has done all he can to capitalise on it.
Good luck to him and good riddance. I don’t want him anywhere near the club.'"
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| Quote ="ChrisA"According to IL yesterday, we are still waiting on Edwards to make his decision...'"
It’s a far cry from the “it’ll be sorted very quickly” comments SE made when Wigan finally made the enquiry with him. It’s not good for either party. There needs to be an ultimatum - are you coming or are you not? We need an answer by mid week at the latest.
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| Quote ="100% Warrior"It’s a far cry from the “it’ll be sorted very quickly” comments SE made when Wigan finally made the enquiry with him. It’s not good for either party. There needs to be an ultimatum - are you coming or are you not? We need an answer by mid week at the latest.'"
Get Lam sorted, forget Edwards, he's messing a great club about.
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| Quote ="MGarbutt1986"Get Lam sorted, forget Edwards, he's messing a great club about.'"
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| Why don't we just accept that he's not coming and/or we don't want him anyway.
I don'd understand all the suspense. If he changes his mind, we won't.
It's over for Edwards in Wigan.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"Why don't we just accept that he's not coming and/or we don't want him anyway.
I don'd understand all the suspense. If he changes his mind, we won't.
It's over for Edwards in Wigan.'"
That is 100% what the players have done.
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| Quote ="RichieS"That is 100% what the players have done.'"
Now all we need is our glorious leader to do the same and pull the plug on this sorry affair
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| Is he still making his mind up?
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| Quote ="muttywhitedog"Is he still making his mind up?'"
According to Rads yesterday, yes he is.
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| Just out of interest if Edwards accepts the Wigan job what will the fans reaction be?! Will we not support him once he takes over or will there be a constant non backing of him? Or will we accept the mess that has happened and give him our full backing?
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| Quote ="JIMMY MAGNETS"Just out of interest if Edwards accepts the Wigan job what will the fans reaction be?! Will we not support him once he takes over or will there be a constant non backing of him? Or will we accept the mess that has happened and give him our full backing?'"
I think at the time people would be disgruntled but by pre-season it would be forgotten and they would get behind him. Get off to a bad start and it will all get dragged back up though.
I'd rather we just announce someone else at this stage, or an extension for Lam if he is interested after all. Even if Edwards comes, I think its fairly clear he would probably leave at the first better offer he gets. That's not worth the risk for a man who hasn't even coached rugby league IMO.
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| Quote ="JIMMY MAGNETS"Just out of interest if Edwards accepts the Wigan job what will the fans reaction be?! Will we not support him once he takes over or will there be a constant non backing of him? Or will we accept the mess that has happened and give him our full backing?'"
Difficult one to answer, because if we now go and lose the next couple of games, having thought we'd turned a corner, and find ourselves back among the cellar dwellers, we'll probably start getting twitchy about Lam again. I don't think anyone expects silverware this year, after such a problem-filled start, but if we're down near the bottom, it'll be obvious that Lam isn't the man for the job. If the Edwards saga is still ongoing, we might inevitably look back towards him.
My concern would be whether we could ever trust him again. Quite simply, he should never have attended that press conference the way he did if there was any doubt in his mind. That was extremely deceitful, and at the full expense of the Wigan fans. Moreover, to then let his indecision start leaking out to RU journalists who initially - and with SE's connivance - tried to pretend that he'd only ever had a passing interest in an RL job, was adding salt to the wound.
I'm not sure I'd ever be comfortable with someone so duplicitous in the top job. They could be here one week and gone the next if something better comes along.
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| It’s a funny question considering that IL appointed him to get more bums on seats. The usual 10,000 or so will still go and that’s their prerogative. I’m one who gave up a few years back and pick and chose my games these days (there’s just far more worthwhile things my family deserve my money spent on). As one who IL was targeting to get back, I can say that if SE does indeed arrive in the winter, I won’t be bothering rushing down in February.
In my opinion the whole mess is just another reminder of what a wet fart RL is these days. Add the Hamlin drugs, Zak drink driving and Williams laughable is-he isn’t-he issues, I’m just not all that d enough and nobody is showing me I’m missing a fantastic product, be it at Wigan or in the wider sport.
My opinion is that SE should be let nowhere near the club after the way he’s treated the club and acted. The fact that he’s not yet been told where to go, is a sad enrichment of the Wigan club these days and the wider sport.
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| Coming from first hand dealings with the club the whole debacle around Edwards doesn’t surprise me in the slightest. I think the blame lies solely with Kris Radlinski with regards to this, Edwards should have signed a contract before it was announced. It doesn’t surprise me if Edwards has changed his mind, if he’s been treated unprofessionally by the club.
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| All excellent and valid points !
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| Quote ="post"Coming from first hand dealings with the club the whole debacle around Edwards doesn’t surprise me in the slightest. I think the blame lies solely with Kris Radlinski with regards to this, Edwards should have signed a contract before it was announced. It doesn’t surprise me if Edwards has changed his mind, if he’s been treated unprofessionally by the club.'"
However remiss IL and KR were about the contract business - and there are just as many stories saying that Edwards kept finding reasons why he couldn't sign - he should NEVER have led the Wigan fans up the garden path the way he did.
The OP asked the question would we want Edwards after this fiasco. Most seem to agree that SE too has behaved very unprofessionally throughout. There's absolutely no point him him saying that he has full respect for IL if his actions tell a different story. Apparently Wigan's offer is still open (amazingly, to me), but Shaun is 'still making his mind up'. That doesn't sound like a man who was stiffed over a contract, or someone who at his press conference gave a full commitment to the Wigan fans that a new dawn was coming.
Would I take SE as coach after this? Yes, but only if there was absolutely no one else. Because I wouldn't trust him not to leave us a week later if RU snapped its fingers.
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| I feel it has simply gone too far now. Could you imagine how the players would feel being coached by someone who is there almost by default? We thought the uncertainty surrounding the start of this year was bad enough!
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| If he comes now after all this, I wont support him. Hes burnt his bridges with a lot of fans over this and its no-ones fault but his own. I'm actually quite angry; I havent been to a game in a while for various reasons, but I was looking forward already to the first game of next season so I could take my young son to his first ever game to see the return of arguably our greatest ever player and legend. Now I feel sad that I even got excited at that idea. Get bent, Edwards.
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| End of the day I see it like this:
1 - He decides in his own head he doesn’t want to job, especially after Wales success and has been offered the England RU job on the quiet.
2 - He starts seeing seeds and bits of sound bites to lessen the shock of him changing his mind, he casts doubt on the move with the ‘if and when’ comment.
3 - Throws a bit more into our and goes AWOL and let’s the speculation come to the realisation that he probably won’t come.
4 - We are just waiting for this stage now, this is where he admits he isn’t coming.
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| Time to get Edwards in NOW!!!
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