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| There's a very, very good side in there somewhere in us. That was a frustrating watch, but what a way to win.
Once we keep hold of the ball and sort the discipline out, we'll be tough to beat. Peet should be so proud of the grit and resilience shown, there was every reason to give in when we went 8 points down.
We'll suffer a few defeats IMO over the next few weeks as the squad is so stretched but we need to aim to peak for the Wire CC tie.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Can never quite work out if bad nights for Smith are down to confidence or concentration. I’d guess at the latter because he was absolutely fine last week (leaving the goal kicking nightmare aside) when it was knock out rugby.'"
One of his best performances was the CC Final so I don't think he's overawed by the bigger occasions. But it feels to me that one mistake early can snowball into a dreadful game. I lost count of the errors in the first 20 minutes - dropped ball, kicks out on the full, misplaced passes. Then another a kick out on the full in golden point. The goalkicking is incredibly frustrating - it's my old man's pet hate. He's been shouting 'sign a goalkicker' since 2014 and he's not wrong - we haven't had a good one since Pat Richards.
But back to Smith - we obviously stick with him as we have no choice atm. How he responds to this poor run could be really integral to our year - hopefully the return of Field will help and maybe Cust can get back in the mix again (Hampshire was pretty anonymous tonight).
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| Quote ="CobraCraig"Smiths kicking has been poor this year but who else is there? He kicked well last year, I’d rather we stuck with him and hope he gets his eye in than go with someone else, each kick he missed was pretty close and all from out wide.'"
Highlights the stupidity of our recruitment over the last 7/8 years. He nearly cost us the game with what is an important part that seems to just be brushed aside by many. I’ve zero confidence in his kicking to the point where it’s a surprise he actually lands one. We must have one other player practicing?
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| P.S. The TV comments were scarcely believable.
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| I’m not getting the negativity, we are pretty depleted at the minute and if you said to me we’d be in the challenge cup and play offs in a months time I’d grab your hand off. The bookies got it right but I thought we were big underdogs today and we managed to turn it around when Hull KR had massive momentum in the second half, we just need to play more expansive as we don’t have the side to dominate in the middle with our injuries.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"Maybe not
Let’s see if conversions cost us again.'"
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| While we didn't play particularly well, we also ought to note, as Willie Peters did (unlike the Sky Sports commentators), that we'd had a quick turnaround and were well-down on bodies. On top of that, HKR played very well, taking it to us for the whole of the game, and yet we were continually able to score from deep, in addition to which, if Smithy had kicked his conversions, our life would have been made a lot easier. There have to be some positives to take from that.
And ... and I'm sorry, but someone has to say this - no way on Earth was that first Ryan Hall effort a try. The way those commentators orgasmed over it was utterly pathetic. Only Tez told the truth. It was very, very dodgy.
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| Quote ="CobraCraig"I’m not getting the negativity, we are pretty depleted at the minute and if you said to me we’d be in the challenge cup and play offs in a months time I’d grab your hand off. The bookies got it right but I thought we were big underdogs today and we managed to turn it around when Hull KR had massive momentum in the second half, we just need to play more expansive as we don’t have the side to dominate in the middle with our injuries.'"
Expansive doesn’t have to mean shipping it wide all the time. Parcell plays for us tonight and we win at a canter. 7 and 9 hold us back and have done for too long. We can all see how we need to play but when your 7 is probably not even in the top 6 halves in the league we are going to struggle in that department really, certainly until Field is back.
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| Quote ="DannyT"Expansive doesn’t have to mean shipping it wide all the time. Parcell plays for us tonight and we win at a canter. 7 and 9 hold us back and have done for too long. We can all see how we need to play but when your 7 is probably not even in the top 6 halves in the league we are going to struggle in that department really, certainly until Field is back.'"
According to Barrie Mac we're not an expansive team.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"One of his best performances was the CC Final so I don't think he's overawed by the bigger occasions. But it feels to me that one mistake early can snowball into a dreadful game. I lost count of the errors in the first 20 minutes - dropped ball, kicks out on the full, misplaced passes. Then another a kick out on the full in golden point. The goalkicking is incredibly frustrating - it's my old man's pet hate. He's been shouting 'sign a goalkicker' since 2014 and he's not wrong - we haven't had a good one since Pat Richards.
But back to Smith - we obviously stick with him as we have no choice atm. How he responds to this poor run could be really integral to our year - hopefully the return of Field will help and maybe Cust can get back in the mix again (Hampshire was pretty anonymous tonight).'"
It’s a crazy run we’re on without what you’d call a ‘really good goal kicker’. It’s been a decade since Pat Richards left and as much as we can say ‘recruit a kicker’ you’d have just thought naturally one would pop up from somewhere, be that a signing from outside the club or somebody coming through the academy. We’ve produced loads of good players in that time and signed loads of good ones and not had a single 80%+ kicker out of the lot.
On a side note, Steve Mascord posted a transfer story yesterday saying a new player at Catalans would be moving to a top English club next season. It is one of those stories behind a pay wall but I saw a couple of mentions saying it was us signing Adam Keighran. He’s the slowest goal kicker I think I’ve seen but he’d solve the problem (I just can’t really see the signing though unless somebody is leaving we didn’t expect).
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| Quote ="Cruncher"According to Barrie Mac we're not an expansive team.
Try telling that to Harry Smith.'"
Seemed like he’d been drinking tonight. Stumbling over names and talking absolute tosh. He said before the game and with a straight face ‘when Wigan and HKR are at their best, HKR are a better side’. I’m loving what HKR are doing but let’s not talk daft. There is absolutely no evidence that suggests that is the case.
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| What the hell is it with 12 men? We just seem to go to pieces and I agree with Cruncher, if that first Ryan Hall effort was a try then I'm a Dutch Man and I'm not because I was born in Newtown!
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| Quote ="proper-shaped-balls"What the hell is it with 12 men? We just seem to go to pieces and I agree with Cruncher, if that first Ryan Hall effort was a try then I'm a Dutch Man and I'm not because I was born in Newtown!'"
Another great example of just how much of a shambles it is sending the decision up with the prejudicial ‘try or no try’ attached to it. He didn’t get it down, as clear as day IMO but there was about a 1.3% chance he got a finger tip on it, so they give it.
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| Superb comeback
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| Also looked like a ball steal on Smithies on the set before we scored the winning try.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Seemed like he’d been drinking tonight. Stumbling over names and talking absolute tosh. He said before the game and with a straight face ‘when Wigan and HKR are at their best, HKR are a better side’. I’m loving what HKR are doing but let’s not talk daft. There is absolutely no evidence that suggests that is the case.'"
Let's be honest, they were trying to do the same thing with Leigh until it became embarrassingly obvious that they weren't in the same class as Wigan.
HKR's second half comeback added grist to their mill - they were popping corks they were so excited. It was worth winning just to take a leak on that pathetic bonfire.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"Let's be honest, they were trying to do the same thing with Leigh until it became embarrassingly obvious that they weren't in the same class as Wigan.
HKR's second half comeback added grist to their mill - they were popping corks they were so excited. It was worth winning just to take a leak on that pathetic bonfire.'"
Oh behave. I bet you was bricking it behind your TV screen when French went down after knocking on, lose him and its curtains for Wigans season.
And fwiw, we shouldn’t have been given the chance to get back in that game at 14-4, but somehow we did and should’ve held on to win. Oh well.
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| Quote ="moxi1"I bet you was bricking it behind your TV screen when French went down after knocking on, lose him and its curtains for Wigans season.
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| Not sure what I enjoyed more, the stunned silence of the Hull KR fans or Clifford the Big Red Dog trying to cheer up their players.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"Well you're not wrong there.'"
Have we forgotten about Field..and the bulk of a starting pack that were all missing tonight.
Not necessarily on here but I’m stunned on social media “fans” are unhappy with that performance tonight.
Missing a pack and a key strike player, against a team flying high in their own backyard….all the makings of a great win in my opinion.
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| Barry said at half time…Rovers deserve to be more than level. More than level? What does that mean?
They weren’t even level!
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| Quote ="jonh"Have we forgotten about Field..and the bulk of a starting pack that were all missing tonight.
Not necessarily on here but I’m stunned on social media “fans” are unhappy with that performance tonight.
Missing a pack and a key strike player, against a team flying high in their own backyard….all the makings of a great win in my opinion.'"
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| Well, first of all, great entertainment, despite the errors. And a great effort to get the win. I listened to Joe and Bilko for the first half, and went down the pub to watch the second half, so I didn't see Junior's try-saving effort. I'm looking forward to watching the whole game back. I agree with NK that Shorrocks did good in some key areas. Super finish from Miski, who seems to have exceeded all our expectations.
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| "I've seen all the possible angles" apart from the one that showed he'd dropped it!!! Theyvtried their best give him the 2nd one aswell!!!
Definate 'strip' on Smithies but no guarantee Smith would've kicked it.
Ellis was very good. Mago is actually improving need to use him Paleasena style near the line maybe
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| Quote ="moxi1"Oh behave. I bet you was bricking it behind your TV screen when French went down after knocking on, lose him and its curtains for Wigans season.
And fwiw, we shouldn’t have been given the chance to get back in that game at 14-4, but somehow we did and should’ve held on to win. Oh well.'"
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