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| Quote ="Cbr1000rr"Ask Ryanair they've still not refunded me for flights cancelled last March!!'"
Ryanair refunded ours back for flights cancelled late March in Mid May
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| Quote ="Jukesays"Ryanair refunded ours back for flights cancelled late March in Mid May'"
There's a big debate going on at the moment between those affected by cancelled flights and those flights that still went ahead despite government restrictions entering countries. We lost over £250 due to this last October, flight went but we werent allowed to enter Hungary (Budapest) as borders closed. Lesson learned.
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| Quote ="Cbr1000rr"Ask Ryanair they've still not refunded me for flights cancelled last March!!'"
Did you book directly with Ryanair or through another company like Love Holidays or someone similar?
I had my refund from Ryanair no problem.
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| 17th May - 25% capacity or 10,000 (whichever is lower I presume)
Larger crowds in June.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"17th May - 25% capacity or 10,000 (whichever is lower I presume)
Larger crowds in June.'"
Wigan, FC and hudds only all seater grounds (not including catalan), so looking at 6250 or thereabouts allowed in, others will only be allowed upto 4000
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| Quote ="number 6"Wigan, FC and hudds only all seater grounds (not including catalan), so looking at 6250 or thereabouts allowed in, others will only be allowed upto 4000'"
Wonder if they'll consider using the bigger stadiums for some home games of other clubs to maximise income.
I still think its all very uncertain anyhow- the roadmap feels uneasily quick to me but I know others will feel differently.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"Wonder if they'll consider using the bigger stadiums for some home games of other clubs to maximise income.
I still think its all very uncertain anyhow- the roadmap feels uneasily quick to me but I know others will feel differently.'"
can't see clubs paying to use other larger grounds, as for the roadmap, for someone who has shielded for over 6 months in total, (so far), its a small light at a very long tunnel of hope
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| Quote ="MadDogg"17th May - 25% capacity or 10,000 (whichever is lower I presume)
Larger crowds in June.'"
Can we get back to budget airline refund policy please?
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| Quote ="Grimmy"Can we get back to budget airline refund policy please?'"
There are some interesting rules around refund policy. The event i referred to earlier in the thread was deferred from last year to this, however at this stage we are stil uncertain whether it will go ahead or not. The company will only offer the entrants a deferral for 1 year, so if it doesnt go ahead this year it looks like we will all lose our money, and not be offered the opportunity to compete next year.
i looked it up briefly and there are things like concerts (bought 1st hand) you could claim full refund, if bought through a reselling site, then more difficult, and then it used a marathon as the example, where the organiser had no obligation to offer full refund. Obviously with that, they are taking a risk that if they run an event at a future date, then entrants will come back to them as they arent cheap to enter
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| When crowds are allowed in from 17th May for a period of a month there will be a capped capacity of c6,000 (until all restrictions are lifted in late June).
The way I see it all 6,000 attendees should be home fans only and priority given to those season ticket holders that supported the club by not requesting a refund.
* Just to note I'm not a season ticket holder these days so wouldn't be able to attend as above.
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| I am a season ticket holder who donated the money but I’d go the other way and say that shouldn’t buy any advantage when it comes to tickets for those early games. Personally I would ballot tickets on a game by game basis in the early weeks of restrictions being eased, with an aim that everybody who wants a ticket gets to at least one fixture and then look to sell season tickets from that late June date, when all the restrictions on numbers should be lifted.
Everyone’s circumstances are different and some people will have needed that refund money on season tickets, some will have not had season tickets due to other commitments, some won’t be able to afford to pay out for season tickets and may just attend the odd match. There are all sorts of scenarios but I’d hate to think the club would risk alienating some supporters who didn’t give up season ticket money/didn’t have a season ticket by giving preferential treatment to those who did. The early fixtures should be a bit of a celebration of getting back to games IMO and I’d love to think every single person who would love to get to a fixture will get the chance to go to one.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I am a season ticket holder who donated the money but I’d go the other way and say that shouldn’t buy any advantage when it comes to tickets for those early games. Personally I would ballot tickets on a game by game basis in the early weeks of restrictions being eased, with an aim that everybody who wants a ticket gets to at least one fixture and then look to sell season tickets from that late June date, when all the restrictions on numbers should be lifted.
Everyone’s circumstances are different and some people will have needed that refund money on season tickets, some will have not had season tickets due to other commitments, some won’t be able to afford to pay out for season tickets and may just attend the odd match. There are all sorts of scenarios but I’d hate to think the club would risk alienating some supporters who didn’t give up season ticket money/didn’t have a season ticket by giving preferential treatment to those who did. The early fixtures should be a bit of a celebration of getting back to games IMO and I’d love to think every single person who would love to get to a fixture will get the chance to go to one.'"
It will only affect two home games (possibly/hopefully), I get what your saying but should those games be attended by some non season ticket holders the club will get a dogs abuse online.along the lines of.....
"My neighbour hasn't been to a game in five years he got a ticket to the match and I'm a season ticket holder who donated my refund and didn't get to go, why is this fair"
Can see it now.
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| Surely they will give priority to the season ticket holders who didn't request a refund. A simple way to thank them at no cost to the club. Plus it would help limit the opportunity for touts, who may well be the real winners if the tickets are purely first-come, first-served.
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| Quote ="Grimmy"Surely they will give priority to the season ticket holders who didn't request a refund. A simple way to thank them at no cost to the club. Plus it would help limit the opportunity for touts, who may well be the real winners if the tickets are purely first-come, first-served.'"
I just don’t think it’s as simple as them (including me) being the most deserving. An example of a non season ticket holder would be My dad, he is 73 and has been watching the club home and away for 65 years. He doesn’t bother with a season ticket as in a usual year he’ll go away for the odd weekend with my mum, so tends to miss one or two games and he’s happy paying on the gate. He goes home, away, friendlies, over to France and so on and probably goes to 80-90% of games every season. He’s missing the games big time and can’t wait to get back. If they just say people who gave the money up are most deserving of a ticket then you could get a 13 year old kid, who got a ST to hang out with their pals but have no real interest in the club taking priority. It doesn’t sit right with me that. It’s just one example of many as well where the balance wouldn’t be right.
Ticket tours wouldn’t be an issue if they ballot them and only let previous ticket holders apply and then try and work it out that everyone in the ballot gets to at least one fixture.
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| They said when refunds were done that those giving back their money would take preference.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I just don’t think it’s as simple as them (including me) being the most deserving. An example of a non season ticket holder would be My dad, he is 73 and has been watching the club home and away for 65 years. He doesn’t bother with a season ticket as in a usual year he’ll go away for the odd weekend with my mum, so tends to miss one or two games and he’s happy paying on the gate. He goes home, away, friendlies, over to France and so on and probably goes to 80-90% of games every season. He’s missing the games big time and can’t wait to get back. If they just say people who gave the money up are most deserving of a ticket then you could get a 13 year old kid, who got a ST to hang out with their pals but have no real interest in the club taking priority. It doesn’t sit right with me that. It’s just one example of many as well where the balance wouldn’t be right.
Ticket tours wouldn’t be an issue if they ballot them and only let previous ticket holders apply and then try and work it out that everyone in the ballot gets to at least one fixture.'"
Whilst acknowledging that tricky predicament, the opposite would happen but 10x times more if non ST holders were chosen ahead of ST holders, and especially with those who donated their money.
The only way it will be done is based on ST holders 2020 (not including the free kids ones)
I'm with the other poster who said that they wouldn't draw a line at those who donated first, because their could be many reasons why they asked for refunds, but I wouldn't be surprised if they did.
(PS, give him your ticket )
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| Could be further complicated by vaccine passports. e.g. 25 yr old ST holder, gave up money of last years ST to club, not had jab by time you are allowed to attend matches again in May therefore can't attend.
Not me or any of my friends by the way. Hopefully I'll be having my first jab in the next few weeks. Then again, might not have had my second jab by the time crowds are let back in the grounds
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| Quote ="dr_feelgood"Could be further complicated by vaccine passports. e.g. 25 yr old ST holder, gave up money of last years ST to club, not had jab by time you are allowed to attend matches again in May therefore can't attend.
Not me or any of my friends by the way. Hopefully I'll be having my first jab in the next few weeks. Then again, might not have had my second jab by the time crowds are let back in the grounds'"
There won't be a vaccine passport system until everyone has been offered one (or at least it won't apply to those who haven't yet been offered one). Just my view.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"There won't be a vaccine passport system until everyone has been offered one (or at least it won't apply to those who haven't yet been offered one). Just my view.'"
That’s the only fair way to do it.
That’s probably why the Tories won’t.
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| Quote ="Jukesays"Whilst acknowledging that tricky predicament, the opposite would happen but 10x times more if non ST holders were chosen ahead of ST holders, and especially with those who donated their money.
The only way it will be done is based on ST holders 2020 (not including the free kids ones)
I'm with the other poster who said that they wouldn't draw a line at those who donated first, because their could be many reasons why they asked for refunds, but I wouldn't be surprised if they did.
(PS, give him your ticket
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He can go and sod off
It’s tricky from all angles for sure. I just think there has to be a way of making it work to try and not alienate anybody. We’re not talking 20,000 people here. If we have two games for example prior to restrictions being lifted then we’d have about 12,500 tickets available over those games. If it is two games then I can see it would be fair to let the people who gave the money up have tickets for the first game but that second game could be opened up a bit more IMO. Maybe split it down the middle, half to ballot between those who gave money up and half to ballot between anyone else.
Try and get as many different people to those first couple of games as possible to help get people back in the swing of things and show all the fans they matter.
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| If there's a game with 6k capacity and 2020 we had 8k season ticket holders then issue them by the normal way of doing these things.
First tickets go on sale to shareholder/season ticket holders.
Then to season ticket holders.
Should there then be any unsold the tickets go on sale to supporters
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| When will they be sent out?
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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"When will they be sent out?'"
Have you not got yours yet? I thought you were a superfan!!
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