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| Quote ="Upanunder"well we've got an entire season of form and playing style/tactics to use to make a prediction
imo, the way wigan have played so far this season whilst being effective enough to get them where they are, isn't going to beat hull if hull play their this season game.
it is a semi, play off, one off game whatever you want to call it, in that respect anything can happen, but the season say's it ain't a 50/50 game.
I'm gonna have to give wigan 12 start'"
A few months good form vs years of big game experience.
I hope you haven't booked your Wembley ticket yet chief.
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| I couldn't care less who wins the hull wigan semi.
As an observer, untainted by fannyisms for either club, I can only see a win for Hull, I'm giving Wigan 12 start, that's just my opinion based on the past 20 odd games and current form, you, sky, eddie and stevo or anybody else has a god given right to disagree with that if they want.
The tickets were booked along with the bus 3 months ago, on y wanes say so, so that's that.
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| A Saints fan in my extended family has just been trying argue that Sarg should be banned because "he shoved Swift into the advertising boards" and in his eyes "could have broken his neck". Nothing in that one for me, the pitch was slippy and both players running at speed. They're a soft bunch in St Helens!
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| Quote ="cherryandwhitedavid06"A Saints fan in my extended family has just been trying argue that Sarg should be banned because "he shoved Swift into the advertising boards" and in his eyes "could have broken his neck". Nothing in that one for me, the pitch was slippy and both players running at speed. They're a soft bunch in St Helens!'"
That incident was a perfect example of the tactics teams are using against us currently which is to blow things out of proportion and to get in to the referee. It happened a good 4 or 5 times on Friday for nothing incidents and it was the same against Leeds.
The high pitched screams from the Saints end upon viewing the replay of the Tomkins high tackle was hillarious! A guy slips as he steps the full back and gets a gentle brush across the face but from the screams you'd think he'd took a chainsaw to him!! It was clearly a penalty but an absolute non starter in terms of it being malicious.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"That incident was a perfect example of the tactics teams are using against us currently which is to blow things out of proportion and to get in to the referee. It happened a good 4 or 5 times on Friday for nothing incidents and it was the same against Leeds.
This is hilarious, you lot talking about 'getting' at the ref, even on sky they were saying Tomkins was trying to tell the ref how to do his job all the game and a couple of months ago didn't your manager send Bateman back on the pitch at half time to have words with the referee.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"
The high pitched screams from the Saints end upon viewing the replay of the Tomkins high tackle was hillarious! A guy slips as he steps the full back and gets a gentle brush across the face but from the screams you'd think he'd took a chainsaw to him!! It was clearly a penalty but an absolute non starter in terms of it being malicious.'"
Thats what fans do in our sport...............little did we know at the time that Tomkins was going to provide many more hilarious moments during the game.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Thats what fans do in our sport...............little did we know at the time that Tomkins was going to provide many more hilarious moments during the game.'"
It's about time he gave you something back after the the numerous times he's ripped the pi*s out of you in the past.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Thats what fans do in our sport...............little did we know at the time that Tomkins was going to provide many more hilarious moments during the game.'"
You're right to enjoy it...... Whilst you can! We all know he's pulled your pants down countless times in the past and that this season was never gonna be his best after so long out with the injuries. I have not a single doubt in my mind that it won't be long before he tears you a new hole and laughs at you again.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"It's about time he gave you something back after the the numerous times he's ripped the pi*s out of you in the past.'"
Thats true, but he's a shadow of his former self these days. I can't see him getting legendary status compared to Radlinski for instance,
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| Quote ="zntyres""Haven't got a clue what FPN was playing at though. Hair pull, tackling a man without the ball and a half punch/half slap all within 60 seconds. Not made himself look good there at all."
Perhaps he objected to being bitten all over his chest?'"
IF it's true that LMS bit him then that's ridiculous and even as a Saints fan I hope he gets a lengthy ban for it; however I am yet to see any evidence to prove he did bite him.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Thats true, but he's a shadow of his former self these days. I can't see him getting legendary status compared to Radlinski for instance,'"
Is he?
Friday was a shocker for him and he missed the Leeds game but besides that he's been excellent since he's been back in the side.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"IF it's true that LMS bit him then that's ridiculous and even as a Saints fan I hope he gets a lengthy ban for it; however I am yet to see any evidence to prove he did bite him.'"
Well at no point in the aftermath of the incident has FPN intimated that he has been bitten, hasnt brought it the ref's attention, or to his teammates when they are around him. So seems like clutching at straws to me. Well played LMS for winding him up. Just wait till he faces other players that will do the same thing
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"IF it's true that LMS bit him then that's ridiculous and even as a Saints fan I hope he gets a lengthy ban for it; however I am yet to see any evidence to prove he did bite him.'"
I'm with you,IF he bit him then he deserves a ban,BUT there is nothing that shows he did. FPN grabs hold of LMS's hair and drags his head down to his chest but there is nothing that shows a bite and you would imagine he would of jumped up yelling he bit me if it was the case. If you read the Aussie press at all you will know he has form and had pulled hair before Aaron Woods being the most recent.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Is he?
Friday was a shocker for him and he missed the Leeds game but besides that he's been excellent since he's been back in the side.
Keep praying.'"
I,m judging his shadow in the full back duty role, currently he has the worse average gain in super league for that position and has failed to make 50 metres in 5 out of his 8 starts. I know Wane has him being more involved in the creative ruck area to help out Smith and Williams but Wane needs to decide if he is more damaging running deep from the full back position as per pre NRL.
Wigan fans are still debating whether he can operate at 6, if his leg problems persist and hence loses pace then I can't see him returning to be one of the best full backs in super league.............hence the shadow implication.
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| " however I am yet to see any evidence to prove he did bite him."
There's none so blind......
I guess mowing over his chest with his mouth opening and closing is not biting, must be me who's daft. Bit like the invisible shot on ST while he was in the air.
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| Quote ="zntyres"" however I am yet to see any evidence to prove he did bite him."
There's none so blind......
I guess mowing over his chest with his mouth opening and closing is not biting, must be me who's daft. Bit like the invisible shot on ST while he was in the air.'"
Where does it show that! if anything, you could say FPN bites LMS's ear as he has his mouth open (can see the gumshield) and puts his mouth into LMS's ear
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| Quote ="Judder Man"I,m judging his shadow in the full back duty role, currently he has the worse average gain in super league for that position and has failed to make 50 metres in 5 out of his 8 starts. I know Wane has him being more involved in the creative ruck area to help out Smith and Williams but Wane needs to decide if he is more damaging running deep from the full back position as per pre NRL.
Wigan fans are still debating whether he can operate at 6, if his leg problems persist and hence loses pace then I can't see him returning to be one of the best full backs in super league.............hence the shadow implication.'"
Wishful thinking? You have an example in your own team of a fullback losing pace due to injuries but still being effective. Luke Dorn is another who isn't blessed with speed but has been excellent in attack this season.
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| No one is banned. Only charge is for FPN for punching and that is a grade A, so will be free with an EGP.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"That incident was a perfect example of the tactics teams are using against us currently which is to blow things out of proportion and to get in to the referee. It happened a good 4 or 5 times on Friday for nothing incidents and it was the same against Leeds.
The high pitched screams from the Saints end upon viewing the replay of the Tomkins high tackle was hillarious! A guy slips as he steps the full back and gets a gentle brush across the face but from the screams you'd think he'd took a chainsaw to him!! It was clearly a penalty but an absolute non starter in terms of it being malicious.'"
wigan invented those tactics so you can't really complain. I'm waiting for the gorilla to come out with his usual bleat about the ref being strong blah, blah, blah. Does he actually believe he has something worth listening to?
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| Quote ="Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy"No one is banned. Only charge is for FPN for punching and that is a grade A, so will be free with an EGP.'"
Thank god for that. He's a complete pudding
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| Quote ="Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy"No one is banned. Only charge is for FPN for punching and that is a grade A, so will be free with an EGP.'"
RFL website saying EPG not available, I assume because he also got a caution for the hair pull on the fat Gareth Bale. Wane may as well get a reserved parking space at Red Hall. Expect he'll get NFA because he was sin binned and it's been classified as reacting to an opponent.
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| Quote ="zntyres"" however I am yet to see any evidence to prove he did bite him."
There's none so blind......
I guess mowing over his chest with his mouth opening and closing is not biting, must be me who's daft. Bit like the invisible shot on ST while he was in the air.'"
I think you're hallucinating mate.
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| Quote ="fc-eaststander"I wouldn't worry too much the rugby league will look after you as they always do if locker can only get one match for that close line 2 weeks ago which put the Wakefield player out for the rest of the season tonight's bad discipline will only result in a 10 pound fine and go back to old Kent road the disciplinary are a fooking joke its probably all your old players on the panel, anyway Wane will have a moan again Soz but you can hardly moan can you'"
Didn't Minichello put Clubb out for the rest of the year and get no punishment what so ever, despite it being a clear crusher tackle?
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| Quote ="WARRIOR5"Didn't Minichello put Clubb out for the rest of the year and get no punishment what so ever, despite it being a clear crusher tackle?'"
Maybe he had some facebook banter with clubb?
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| that Quote ="Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy"No one is banned. Only charge is for FPN for punching and that is a grade A, so will be free with an EGP.'"
that will be a total take .it will only reinforce other fans belief you have the rfl in your pocket
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