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| Few red faces amoungst the Saints fans commenting on our discipline after that half off rugby!
Awful discipline and a team warning followed by a sin bin. Even we couldn't match that last night.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Few red faces amoungst the Saints fans commenting on our discipline after that half off rugby!
Awful discipline and a team warning followed by a sin bin. Even we couldn't match that last night.'"
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| Didn't think it were possible but 7 Penalties on the bounce beats Wigans act last night, not often you outstrip Catalan in the penalty count.
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| Quote ="WireWireWire"Didn't think it were possible but 7 Penalties on the bounce beats Wigans act last night, not often you outstrip Catalan in the penalty count.'"
I agree being offside or stripping the ball is far more criminal that 'kicking a player'
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| Quote ="LFC Saint"I agree being offside or stripping the ball is far more criminal that 'kicking a player''"
Don't take the bait pal haha!
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| Quote ="LFC Saint"I agree being offside or stripping the ball is far more criminal that 'kicking a player''"
A stupid act of petulance from one player in comparison to a team being unable to play within the rules tackle after tackle to the point of the young lad having to be the fall guy and getting sin binned.
Masoe up to his usual tricks near the end also, winding people up then lashing out before quickly moving backwards and hiding behind his teammates. He looks to have modelled his game on Ryan Bailey.
Very poor discipline as pointed out. We were also poor in that department on Thursday night but the vast majority of Wigan fans have already condemned that.
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| Quote ="Grimmy"Think people are going ott about Smith, it's a soft yellow at most'"
I agree, it's OTT for a little kick out. I know Matty and he's not like that but everyone snaps now and then.
The joel tomkins on phelps was more of a issue for me. He seems to run over to any little pushing match which can cause a brawl. I've no prob players running in to help mates when a fight breaks out but he's coming in at every opportunity.
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| Quote ="neil_w"RG I agree under the laws of the game contact to the head should be Red card, however I think I'm right in thinking it says deliberate contact and as a few of the sky team pointed out last night that was not deliberate. Poor technique yes but not deliberate, yellow card and on report for me. But if it is contact to the head = red card how come when Logan Tomkins I think hit Mellor around the head in the 2nd half it was not a red nor a yellow? The way he swung his arm he was always going to hit the back of Mellors neck and then ride up onto his head, if Mellor was facing that swinging arm it would have hit him right across his throat and gone up into his face and the Sky team and everyone would have being going ballistic but apparently just because he had his back to it and it hit the back of his neck first it is deemed OK pen to Widnes? I bet if Ah Van's tackle is slowed right down his arm hits Charnley's shoulder a micro second before the hand or forearm hits his chin will that be taken into account as you read every week at the disciplinary 'hit shoulder, or arm or back before contact with head is made, sending off sufficient or 1 game etc.'.
Smiths kick out was deliberate and Tomkins running around looking for someone to hit was a joke, Smith should have been straight red and Tomkins possible red but defo a yellow but nothing. TJ then tells ref Smith has been berating him behind the sticks so he bins him for a bit of lip not assault?
But like you say there were more incidents that were so obvious that just was not picked up by the ref and his team it shocking. Sean O on the first tackle had the Widnes player around the throat and it was just ignored second half the ref defo did his best to even up the penalty count IMO some right some wrong. Unfortunately this is just something all teams will have to put up with as some of the refs have no idea what they are doing.
I will be amazed if Smith gets anything for the deliberate kick on Hanbury, provoked or not that is way out of line and like someone says if he did it earlier in the game then he should be punished even if just 1 match. I expect them to come out with picture doesn't really show enough to make a decision no case to answer, Tomkins will not even be cited. But Mellor probably will be even though it was O'Carroll who pushed (nothing in it) SO.
Great game for viewers to get the season underway, another easy one next week up at Headingly.'"
I think it was a red. The was no intention but if a swinging arm connects on the jaw then it's a red.
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| How dare anyone criticise the saints.
They are beyond reproach.
If they want to change the 10 metre rule to a 4 metre rule during a game that's fine with me.
If Masoe wants to talk fight no problem because he really is a hard piece of lard so if he got to slapping someone it would be terrifying.
Look even St Keiron has had to have a go at referees for not letting them carry on with their spoiling tatics for gods sake.
Please Wigooners stop this nonsense and get back to revelling into watching continuos 3 man tackles that the heavenly Saints will never do
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| Quote ="Itchy Arsenal"How dare anyone criticise the saints.
They are beyond reproach.
If they want to change the 10 metre rule to a 4 metre rule during a game that's fine with me.
If Masoe wants to talk fight no problem because he really is a hard piece of lard so if he got to slapping someone it would be terrifying.
Look even St Keiron has had to have a go at referees for not letting them carry on with their spoiling tatics for gods sake.
Please Wigooners stop this nonsense and get back to revelling into watching continuos 3 man tackles that the heavenly Saints will never do'"
Congrats! Your a early contender for pathetic idiotic post of the year and we only one week in!
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| Quote ="St pete"Congrats! Your a early contender for pathetic idiotic post of the year and we only one week in!
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I'm sorry do you usually win it?
I'm a naughty naughty boy and I promise not to dare to be sarcastic ever again.
Just off to burn my Wigan top and bobbing down to Langtree Park to worship in front of statue of St Keiron
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| Quote ="Itchy Arsenal"I'm sorry do you usually win it?
I'm a naughty naughty boy and I promise not to dare to be sarcastic ever again.
Just off to burn my Wigan top and bobbing down to Langtree Park to worship in front of statue of St Keiron'"
Glad to have you on board as a new fan. See you at WCC for a pint of saints gold ?
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| Quote ="St pete"Glad to have you on board as a new fan. See you at WCC for a pint of saints gold ?
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Is that cold Typhoo?
It's a sell out (which is great by the way) so I will just have to listen outside of the ground whilst I say my hail Mary's in front of her other son the heavenly St Keiron
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| Quote ="Itchy Arsenal"Is that cold Typhoo?
It's a sell out (which is great by the way) so I will just have to listen outside of the ground whilst I say my hail Mary's in front of her other son the heavenly St Keiron'"
It's King Keiron mate
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| Ohhh...I can't wait for Good Friday! Should be a cracker, less than a sell out would be a disappointment.
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| Didn't you know he got promoted to a Saint just like you?!
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| Quote ="MattyB"Ohhh...I can't wait for Good Friday! Should be a cracker, less than a sell out would be a disappointment.'"
If both teams have decent form going in I think it'll be the most eagerly awaited derby in years. It's good to have that sense of anticipation for the fixture again. For too many years one side has been dominant over the other and although that didn't always transpire in the league fixtures with both sides upsetting the other, you always knew there was only one side that was likely to win anything when the big games came round.
I want to beat them more then any other team again. That honestly hadn't been the case for a good few years with me putting the Wire and Leeds fixtures above it in terms of 'wanting desperately to win'.
Good Friday can't come soon enough.
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| Ben Westwood up to his old antics as well. Sin-binned for a high tackle and likely to get a ban.
If you go on the VT you'd think Wigan never make a fair tackle, we're the dirtiest team ever and all of our players are "scum" - yeah that word was used.
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| Slowly but surely the discipline instilled by a professional coach in maguire is being replaced with the thuggery of wane. Shame really!!
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| Quote ="boothdaz"Slowly but surely the discipline instilled by a professional coach in maguire is being replaced with the thuggery of wane. Shame really!!'"
At least our thuggery is on the pitch rather than in the stands, Cas fan.
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| Is there a square inch of space left on that moral high ground?
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| I think Joel's actions against Phelps can be explained by the animosity shown towards Phelps after he left the club and hawked around our attacking and defensive structures.
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| What a ridiculous thread. We are no worse than anyone else.
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| Quote ="boothdaz"Slowly but surely the discipline instilled by a professional coach in maguire is being replaced with the thuggery of wane. Shame really!!'"
Wins trophies though, doesn't he......
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| Quote ="LFC Saint"I agree being offside or stripping the ball is far more criminal that 'kicking a player''"
I can't actually believe we have Saints fans discussing this thread. You have Mose Masoe playing for you, rugby league's answer to Diego Costa. A truly disgusting excuse for a human being.
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