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Charnley
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McLlorum
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Taylor
Dudson
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I'd go BIG otherwise our pack will get dominated big time like has happened a lot recently and the backs have no chance on the back of that.
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| Quote ="DP_wwrlfc"Sam
Charnley
Gelling
Thornley
Richards
Green
Smith
Mossop
McLlorum
Crosby
Hansen
Farrell
Flower
A Powell
Taylor
Dudson
Tuson
I'd go BIG otherwise our pack will get dominated big time like has happened a lot recently and the backs have no chance on the back of that.'"
Huddersfield's pack is beatable so long as you don't lay them at their own game. If we try to match their big men by filling our pack with our big men I think we will lose that battle.
We need to tire them out and run them all over the park and have a good kicking game that keeps them stuck in their 20m as much as possible.
I'd go for mobility based on the fact trying to match them for muscle isn't going to work. Having given further thought to playing A Powell I think if we do he will and truly get found wanting. He was out of his depth v Leeds so against this lot? Well I reckon they will be glad to see him on the pitch.
And before anyone says I am having a go at him I am not. I just don't think he is ready.
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| Quote ="DaveO"Huddersfield's pack is beatable so long as you don't lay them at their own game. If we try to match their big men by filling our pack with our big men I think we will lose that battle.
We need to tire them out and run them all over the park and have a good kicking game that keeps them stuck in their 20m as much as possible.
I'd go for mobility based on the fact trying to match them for muscle isn't going to work. Having given further thought to playing A Powell I think if we do he will and truly get found wanting. He was out of his depth v Leeds so against this lot? Well I reckon they will be glad to see him on the pitch.
And before anyone says I am having a go at him I am not. I just don't think he is ready.'"
Agreed, we need to play to our strength, and make their strength their weakness. Be mobile, kick well, and tire them.
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| i'd go with that apart from a nagging little thing that reminds me of a similar strategy last time we played the bulls at OT.
we got battered that day. lets hope we execute better tomorrow.
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| Quote ="ShortArse"i'd go with that apart from a nagging little thing that reminds me of a similar strategy last time we played the bulls at OT.
we got battered that day. lets hope we execute better tomorrow.'"
Difference being that was at the end of a playoff campaign where our lightweight pack had given their all.
We should be fresher vs Huddersfield and I am not worried about that.
Tbh I am not worried about our pack vs theirs, I am more worried about our creativity.
I still think we will win tommorrow though. Huddersfields league position flatters them massively. Their fans are deluded and actually think the LLS is reflective on who is the best team in the league.
We do need creativity at half though.
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| Due to have heavy rain this evening, before and during the match so we need the Matty Smith Challenge Cup Final 101 Master Class with the kicking game and tactics.
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| Regardless of weather kicking needs to to top notch
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| Quote ="FIOS"Obviously our attack needs a shake up and with this not being a knock out game I think we are ok to take some risks. Goulding didn't look fit to me and we need a creative 13 to suit our style of play so I would go:
1. Sam
2. Charnley
3. Gelling
4. Thornley
5. Richards
6. Hampshire
7. Smith
8. Mossop
9. McIlorum
10. Flower
11. Hansen
12. Farrell
13. Green
14. Taylor
15. Tuson
16. A.Powell
17. Crosby'"
Why do you guys refer to Tomkins as 'Sam'? Are you all on 1st name terms with 'Sam' and not the rest of the players?
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| Quote ="theblondebomber"Why do you guys refer to Tomkins as 'Sam'? Are you all on 1st name terms with 'Sam' and not the rest of the players?'"
Because there are two Tomkins. Mind you there are also two Sams now, and two Powells
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| Quote ="theblondebomber"Why do you guys refer to Tomkins as 'Sam'? Are you all on 1st name terms with 'Sam' and not the rest of the players?'"
Yet another Saints newcomer shows his ar2e in public.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"Yet another Saints newcomer shows his ar2e in public.'"
not really mate the OP says 'Sam' @ fullback. Sam who? Sam Powell? If that’s the case you may have a shot at winning tonight. SAM Tomkins has been found out now. He is nowhere near effective as previous, which happens to all good players. Roby as a good example. Also his lack of games could show tonight, what is the reasoning behind him playing so little games this season? I doubt he is injured / ill / his mum wrote him a note to get out of PE / he forgot his kit. A case of holding him back to sell at a higher price?
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| Tuson and Sam Powell out of the squad, replaced by Logan Tomkins and Greenwood.
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| No recognisable Loose forward and no one to spell the half backs which means Green will play the full 80. Game over before it's already started.
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| don't know if the actual team has been posted up but here is the team sheet via Sky Sports News.
Huddersfield Giants: Grix, Cudjoe, Wardle, McGillvary, Brough, Robinson, Crabtree, Lunt, Kopczak, Ferres, Faiumu, Lawrence, Patrick, Chan, Ta'ai, Murphy, Ferguson, Blackmore, Wood.
Wigan Warriors: Charnley, Crosby, Dudson, Farrell, Flower, Gelling, Green, Hansen, Hughes, McIlorum, Mossop, A. Powell, S. Powell, Richards, Smith, Taylor, Thornley, S. Tomkins, Tuson.
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Taylor
Powell
Logan
I'm guessing this will be the team now...
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| Logan Tomkins and James Greenwood replace Tuson and Sam Powell in the squad for tonight,
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Green to play full 80.
Game to be over after 25 minutes.
Hope I'm wrong but I'm probably not.
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| Quote ="Bluenosewarrior"No recognisable Loose forward and no one to spell the half backs which means Green will play the full 80. Game over before it's already started.'"
Why would Green not play the full 80?? Stop talking rubbish
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| Quote ="Bluenosewarrior"Farrell to Loose Forward.
Green to play full 80.
Game to be over after 25 minutes.
Hope I'm wrong but I'm probably not.'"
why?
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| Quote ="Bluenosewarrior"Tomkins
Charnley
Gelling
Thornley
Richards
Green
Smith
Crosby
McIlorum
Mossop
Hansen
Dudson
Farrell
Greenwood
Taylor
Powell
Logan
I'm guessing this will be the team now...'"
I think Andy Powell or Hughes are more than likely to play than Greenwood. And I doubt Dudson will play SR.
I think it'll be:
S Tomkins
Charnley
Gelling
Thornley
Richards
Green
Smith
Crosby
McIlorum
Mossop
Hansen
Farrell
Flower
Taylor
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Hughes
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| Quote ="bazdev"Why would Green not play the full 80?? Stop talking rubbish'"
Because he's been awful recently. Powell was brought in to obviously spell him at different points in the game. Now he's out Green will play the full 80 and we will lose because he is clearly not fit enough to play a full game.
It's not his fault, the injury he got at Hull KR away has obviously hindered his performances this season. Shame really because he looked a good player.
As I've said in a previous thread, I hope I'm wrong, but you can't just turn form on and off.
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| Quote ="Jakjtb"why?'"
See my above post.
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| Quote ="bazdev"Tuson and Sam Powell out of the squad, replaced by Logan Tomkins and Greenwood.'"
That's a ball ache, I was looking forward to seeing how Sam Powell got on. I assume we'll look like this instead:
FB 1 S.Tomkins
RW 2 Charnley
RC 22 Gelling
LC 17 Thornley
LW 5 Richards
SO 6 Green
SH 7 Smith
P 26 Crosby
H 9 McIlorum
P 10 Mossop
SR 11 Hansen
SR 12 Farrell
LF 15 Flower
S 4 Hughes
S 21 Taylor
S 23 L.Tomkins
S 20 Dudson/38 A.Powell
Greenwood and Dudson or A.Powell to miss out
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| Quote ="Bluenosewarrior"Because he's been awful recently. Powell was brought in to obviously spell him at different points in the game. Now he's out Green will play the full 80 and we will lose because he is clearly not fit enough to play a full game.
It's not his fault, the injury he got at Hull KR away has obviously hindered his performances this season. Shame really because he looked a good player.
As I've said in a previous thread, I hope I'm wrong, but you can't just turn form on and off.'"
Powell was in to spell McIlorum, like Logan will do. Nothing has changed
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